[quote] As far as needing a college degree I agree, but it is still the line towed by many employers so what can you do?[/quote] This is a problem with [i]some[/i] employers. The job field is becoming somewhat paradoxical in the US. Employers want people with degrees, but they're also being extremely picky in terms of skillset. I would say majority of people who come out of college obv have the degree but don't have the skillset. And then there's people who have the skillset, but don't have the degree. Then they don't hire the person who have the degree because they don't have skillset and they don't hire the person who has the skillset but lacks the degree. Entry level has gotten bad as well because certain outfits aren't willing to put time into training. It turns into a vicious cycle because college students are unable to pay the exorbent loan costs due to not having a decent paying job, they'll inevitably default on the loan, and then the college loan bubble continues to grow. Im not a huge fan of the current president, but in his defense there was job growth. The problem however is that a small pool of people fit those jobs, so a lot of them have remained unfilled. Short version: Job requirements have become strict in order to minimize risk.