Yeah, I really never had an interest in pvp until my son started pushing me. I actually had my best Crucible game ever playing with him. As far as patrols, I like hanging out in the Dreadnaught, especially when "the enemy goes against each other". There are so many adds that I find it helps me better my game. I also farm Hadium flakes when I'm there. But I do my fare share of vangaurd strikes. I haven't been able to do the Raid for awhile since most of the people I play with are now on Call of Duty. But, as I mentioned in my earlier post, having fun helping my son level up. His Hunter is now level 40 with a 208 light. I need to get him to 260 minimum so that he can help me do the timed Phobos quest. I keep trying to solo it but the last part is too difficult for me.