[quote]If you all could grasp the concept my post is about challenging myself.[/quote] surely challenging yourself is using non-meta guns against meta guns? right? which you proclaim to do anyway, so why you getting pissed at people using TLW/Mida/1K stare? this is especially true in normal crucible where levels aren't enabled, the only other ay to challenge yourself would be to go into ToO or IB as 290-300 lvl guardian listen man your post is really condescending, you preach about how you like to run different guns aka play how you want but then criticize people for using the meta weapons aka using the guns they want to use chill out man its just a game