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Modificato da Calaway049:
1/13/2016 12:54:05 AM
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So I tried the Totems cheese today...
Tried getting in a full raid before work. I had about two and a half hours, and joined a fireteam that was all 317+. Everyone in the group had a working mic, sounded adult, and acted mature. As we started the raid, there was no talk of who's doing this or are we using that strategy. Always a good sign.
We get to totems with minimum effort and zero setbacks. As we get to the totems, it happens. The fireteam leader asks if we know the totems cheese. Everyone says yes, and agrees its faster and easier. I stay silent, unsure of how to react. I've heard of the cheese before, and know how to do it in concept. Before today, I had the same opinion of this cheese as I did the no-knight strat; if it gets the job done, and without too much hassle, I don't care.
However, after a full hour on totems we had no success. Most of the fireteam at this point agreed we should just do the normal strategy, but the fireteam leader was adamant. He claimed if we did the normal strat, we would wipe more and take longer. Considering he was the one that died EVERY TIME, I had enough. For the first time in months, I rage quit a raid. Never again will I suffer through the totems cheese. If you insist on it, I'm just going to grab the cp and leave. The warpriest will NOT deem you worthy.
Tl;Dr Kings Fall totems cheese is for noobs who can't do the easiest reward stage of the raid.
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If they wanted to do it that way and were so insistent upon doing it in that way then you're probably better off without that team. You probably wouldn't make it past Golgoroth if you stuck with them.
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7 RisposteThe Cheese makes Totems ridiculously easy, if a group of Randies are cheesing Totems and actually wiping more than once or twice then I would have quit, no way they can do the rest of the Raid if that's the standard.
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2 RisposteJust do it properly, why must people cheese everything? Then complain the games too easy? Makes no sense, don't blame you for quitting.
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2 RisposteModificato da Ravenous Thqwib: 1/13/2016 11:46:37 AMI mean, you still play the mechanics like normal, only difference is people stand somewhere else, ain't much of a cheese. It also takes the same time because of how you open the door, just no 5 second run time
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Done it both ways. Cheese only shaves off a few minutes by having to run less and giving more support to the guys on the plate in middle.
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I have done it twice, both at the suggestion of the ldr, first time on the totem, second in the middle. Easy to do either role. I don't understand the need to do it though...doesn't really save much. Still need to activate the plate the same number of times. I guess with 4 ppl in middle at all times instead of 2, it is easier killing the thrall, knights and wizards, but if the plate person sucks, they are alone and if they die, its a wipe. Without the adds coming down from mid though, only the top knight should kill them, unless the mid ppl suck...at which point you have problems anyway and should develop patience or find a new team.
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9 RisposteWtf is the totem cheese?
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Modificato da HollowPoint XB: 1/13/2016 11:56:02 AMI've seen more idiots die trying to cheese it than do it legit. Still fails to amaze me how many people die at the easiest part of the raid.
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Just like anything else in Kingsfall, if you're team is not capable of doing the Totems an alternate way they probably won't be successful doing it the normal way.
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I learned it last night, it's actually easy as pie and does speed things up [b]only[/b] if everyone knows what the deal is, if not, it's not worth the effort in explaining it in my experience
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1 RispondiIf I ever find an LFG team doing this on HM, I'm definitely done.
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Lol to all the people that "cheese" the easiest part in the raid hahahah. It's not really a cheese by the way lol a different strat yes but cheese.... Not even close to dairy lol
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2 RispostePeope need to learn what a cheese actually is. Remember sniping all the oracles from up top? Cheese in the truest sense.
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2 RisposteHonestly, I don't consider the no knight strat a cheese because it is the game mechanics. But I prefer not to do it because it is so unorganized and there is so much room for error if with randoms. But seriously, how hard is it to aim at a knights head, shoot twice, and gtfo?
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What was he doing? If he was in the middle and dying he would have had just as much trouble with the normal strat, if he was on a totem maybe someone more capable should've handled that
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3 RisposteHere's the cheese for everyone looking
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1 RispondiModificato da r0cky014: 1/13/2016 5:01:35 AMthis and the golgoroth cheese need to be eliminated...they are just stupid and pathetic imo!(on second thoughts no...leave them in...helps save me 3 hours of my life if people decide they wanna do them cuz i tell them they are pathetic and leave) seriously...ive been in lfg groups that have demanded the totems cheese is "easier" and "quicker" than regular way...but every group ive been in thats done totems cheese couldnt do it....at all..and after arguing with them after every wipe to do it normally i got frustrated and leave.....and now with the golgo glitch spot thats just as bad...if you are so bad you gotta crawl into a stupid hole then you shouldnt be raiding...that simple....i cant even count the hours ive been stuck on golgo because of lfg and their reluctance to run it -blam!-ing normally....it seriously isnt hard to grab his gaze...run to the front door and shoot a couple of orbs while counting out the timer...ffs...again...i hear "were taking l2 down guys" i start questioning them...and because the majority of golgo cheesers are so set in their ways it turns into an argument...so i hear l2 im like..-blam!-ing sad and leave....and while im at it...no knight strat....wtf...why the hell do people STILL insist on doing it this way??it isnt easier..i dont know where people get that from.....i fijd the easiest ways to run it is either normal strat...8 orb and 16 orb strats...none of them are difficult and if your team is even half decent then it takes no time at all....jeeeezee
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2 RisposteBoth ways are ok. The cheese can be finished with 4 men standing, the normal way not. Perfect if there are players under 300 light!
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You can cheese it or do it legit, takes the same time. If team knows what they are doing.
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3 Rispostelmao cheesing totems?? who does that sheit XD
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I've joined a few random raids where they've insisted on cheesing it. And every one of them ended with us doing it legit after 3-4 failed attempts. Honestly its pointless, its probably the easiest part of the raid and anyone who needs to cheese it has skill issues.
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an HOUR? oh hell no! 4 wipes MAX at totems and I'm out
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It sounds like the cheese wasn't the issue here, but most likely player arrogance (and I don't mean you). I can imagine the culture of blame set in early on and that always helps a team...
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Wow, I don't do the raid often, and I'm at roughly 300 - 310 light throughout all my characters, but I can say for certain that the totems without cheese is the easiest part of king's fall. Anyone who only cheeses it is obviously too lazy to pull their own weight.
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how does it taste like?
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I did it last week for the first time and like you, didn't know it even existed. Didn't really see the benefit of it to be honest. It's so easy without having to do that
