Defiance was a huge pile of shit. Doesn't even remotely come close to destiny bro. You guys demand way too much. You will never be happy playing a video game. It's that simple. You bitch and moan just to do it. Honestly if I was in charge of shit I wouldn't even have a forum because all it attracts are little a holes like you that just cry all day. For 145$ you have been given hundreds of hours of play time and not just by yourself with up to 6 of your friends. Tons of events. Tons of weekly monthly daily shit to do. Completely original weapons. Great characters that all have their own little knitch. Beautiful graphics and back drops. Open patrols. What you want from a game you will never have ever. You expect too much.