I usually don't side with anyone, but I have to make some points. 1. For all who complain the King's Fall raid is too easy I have a suggestion and a little retort. People moaned and groaned that Crota's End was way too easy(it was), and they wanted a challenging raid. Boom, they got a puzzle oriented raid. But now because people have knowledge how to do it it makes it easier. Remember: having the key to a puzzle makes it easier. So, why don't we contact the makers of Dark Souls, and have them make a Raid that give SUPER GOOD GEAR FIRST TRY, since everyone wants that, and style its difficulty like the original Dark Souls and multiply that by ten. 2. People wanted new exotics. Bam, Spindle, Supercell, Simulant. Then they complained about wanting old exotics. I admit they waited way too long, but still. We get our exotics. 3. Destiny is an unusual game to say the least. Borderlands may have a ridiculous amount of guns, but most were never used, and pvp wasn't really a thing. So, in order so weapons aren't ridiculous in Crucible, some nerfs are needed. Now, I think that Bungie nerfed too many things way too much, but still, some nerfs in a multiplayer gun game will always be needed. 4. People whine that Bungie never listens. Now, I'll say Bungie can have selective hearing (if you don't know what that is, Google it. That's what it's for. Education.)k but they DO listen. Granted, there will always be whiners in PvP and PvE that talk about OPness when they truly suck. When people whined about Thorn(and it was totally op.), they researched the issue and nerfed it. When people whined about shotties not being good enough, they got buffed, so they would be used in PvE. 5. for those people that may call me a blind sheep for partially defending Bungie look again. There are always at least two sides to every issue, every argument. So before you start calling me a *** or a saint, seriously. Take a long, good look at everything. Make your own opinion. Honestly, you don't have to listen to the guy I'm replying to, or anything else I say but this: form your own opinion. But remember, look at the facts. A game is for enjoyment, try to play the game without ANY feelings going in, and you might enjoy it. Or you might not. Think about it