Necro-response! Yes, I gathered that obviously, I was being rather more intentional with my response to gain insight into the other persons point of view. You know, as bread crumbs are to lay down the best intention of mice and men, as was I in order to better grasp his frame of reference rather than the actual idiom itself...context is king. But thank you for you belated reply. How have You handled the TK HM Raid so far.