The Grind Driven ones are all outdated too. People stopped caring about those kinds of cookie cutter MMOs that are all re-skinned versions of each other. Games like Guild Wars were the final nail in the coffin for monthly subscription fees, which was the beginning of the end for things like WoW. The only people who stick with World of Warcraft are the truly addicted. Same is true for Destiny. Meanwhile, other games like TERA and Mabinogi seek to innovate and offer all new experiences for Gamers to enjoy. Innovation wins. Always.