Just a correction-- not all Sunbreakers are saying the class is fine. They just don't want to be nerfed into being the weakest again. I personally believe it needs an armor nerf as that won't really affect PVE. I think a lot of it is backlash against Hunters who were overpowered last year yet declared they were fine as well. A lot of Titans feel like they're entitled to this. They're not of course, balance should be the end game of it all, but I can see where the attitude is coming from. It's like Druids back when Burning Crusade came out. They finally were strong after being one of the weakest classes for so long... And then they were nerfed to garbage for a while again. Though I admit, I find t amusing that some of the same people jumping up and down about the Titan super glitch are the same people defending using the arguably worse Nightstalker glitch because it's just "exploiting bungie's game". Again, it's the mentality of the PvPer. The game is only balanced if their class is the strongest.