[quote]You clearly said "Missing jumps like an asshole" I would not count the jumping in sisters or oryx as a jumping puzzle. I think this term is the preserve of the pendulums, ships and piston area. These are the areas people need support.[/quote] actually what I said was [quote]You can point out the same ledge they keep missing like an asshole[/quote] as in YOU can point out the ledge that they keep missing like an asshole. The act of you pointing it out would be exactly like what an asshole would do. Not sure how you still don't understand that the fact you treat them like they are stupid by pointing out the ledges that they keep missing their jumps on makes you appear like an asshole. And for all your examples... Tombships are the only "puzzle" in that case. Every other jump is quite literally a path you follow. You can apply the same thing to the pendulums with you trying to point out the ledge and it would further my point. They know where to jump on a majority of these *I'll concede to tombships as that's a puzzle* and doing something like pointing out a ledge in all these when the issue is the person just can't make the jumps, the jumps they KNOW, is just going to frustrate them even more.