This isnt an elitist post in any way. I've done the raid numerous times and do invite my friends to play and sometimes we need 2 or 3 others. I post wanting experienced people because of the fact we have taught so many people and kind of dont want too anymore because MOST new people cant even grasp the direction of counter clockwise. Also, working 45 hours a week and going to University, I dont wanna be spending 4 hours on a raid when me and my friends and 2 experienced players cant bang it out in 60-90 minutes. If you think because your new and never done the raid before you deserve to be baby sat then your arrogant. Someone people just play occasionally and just wanna beat the raid once a week and fiish other real life things. I laugh at people who say they have no time to raid because of real life. You cant because your the ones causing 3-4 Hours worth of work for experienced players.