Personally, I could understand a nerf in Crucible. I don't play it much, so I wouldn't care unless it hurt PVE, as well. Then I'd have a problem. I think the whole "butt hurt" hunters thing comes from the fact that they sort of dominated PvP in year one with two of the strongest Supers in the game and now that Sunbreaker is out and they're no longer the big kid in the sandbox, it sounds like they're whining. Do Hunters have a valid complaint? Possibly. I don't play a lot of PvP, so I can't say for sure. I think a lot of Titans are just afraid that needing HoS will put them back to Year 1 status-- namely, the worst PvP class, with Hunters dominating again. Not to mention that Supers are all they really have. Grenades are mediocre and melee is still the worst in the game. And if I recall, armor is actually the worst stat in Crucible, but I could be wrong. I actually want to level a Hunter now, myself. Wasn't a huge fan of Gunslinger or Blade Dancer, but I like the looks of Nightstalkers as a support class.