Most excuses I see are: 1. "Titans never had an overpowered subclass before so we deserve this." Other overpowered subclasses were nerfed and they're still good in PvP. We don't want your new subclass to be nerfed to the ground, we want it to be nerfed TO BALANCE IT. 2. "Titans are tanks, they're supposed to kill everything." This is honestly the dumbest thing because you adjust armor, recovery, and speed according to preference but if you REALLY insist that they are tanks then they should be slower and not have the best (fastest/most ranged) jump in the game. I've never seen a tank move like that. 3. "All of their perks benefit their super." You can decide to choose the perks that only benefit a super for every subclass, doesn't make the other supers indestructible. Also, that sounds like Bungie didn't think it through, not that they intended for this super to be an unstoppable wrecking machine. 4. "Get gud, butthurt, salty, etc." We get it, you're 13. [spoiler]Before anyone says anything, I have 1 of each class. I main a hunter this DLC because Nighstalker is the only new super I like. Last DLC I mostly ran my titan (Defender) for PvE and my warlock (Voidwalker) for PvP and I'll be switching them both back to their void supers once I finish leveling the new ones.[/spoiler]