1. Kind of hard to hide when you can't get off radar and their hammers have enough AoE to completely prevent cover from working. 2. And if you don't like those subclasses? 3. If you have time to shadowshot a Sunbreaker then they certainly have time to toss a hammer at your barely moving hunter. I guess a trade still counts as a counter though. 4. If there's no heavy? 5.Not everyone can snipe. I guess that means not everyone can kill Sunberakers. *sad face* 6. Sure, so long as the group isn't within 15 feet of each other. Otherwise that hammer is gonna blow them all up and chain fiery death to the survivors. All while healing the titan who threw it. As for you edit, you can't kill a sunbreaker with a shotgun beatdown. Or a high impact sniper headshot. Or two hits from arc blade. Or one shot from Golden Gun. The problem isn't that they're so broken. The problem, is that they're so broken without having to use exotics or extra perks to be the best at everything.