Agreed these requirements are silly. However, the flipside is this. Yesterday me an my crew needed two people. We lfg'd got two sub 290 dudes, no problem. We walked them through the entire raid, got up to the sisters and then one of us had to leave so we went to orbit. The two gamers who were firends just left, no thank you, no recognition of the fact that we were patient with them and we wasted at least an hour and a half becuase of their inability to do things properly, they even had issues with the concept of clockwise versus counter clockwise.... I don't mind bringing new people through raids, in fact I like being able to give back what was given to me on crota and VOG, however when I do I appreciate a thank you or some acknowledgement of thanks for the knowledge and time I am giving you... I have not yet completed oryx because I have been running with inexperienced folks in my groups and a bunch of my cln mates have been playing at different hours than me... Again no problem, I just wish that when people who are under level and inexperienced did get in with a group patient enough to run them through, that they showed some gratitude....