The Raid has shown alot of people for their true colours (hence why i will never do it or finish it) I helped one group out on how to start and get into the raid properly (agree'd to clan up) Boom! got left behind Next group i got blamed for 2 or more wipes yet i had the most kills/damage etc etc but hey anger management for some was needed (i got kicked) Last group just plain ignored me throughout the first boss then i got kicked as we were about to kill him (so i lost on loot) But hey thank god i'll never set foot in the raid it is a pointless waste of space in the game for me. all it has proven and shown is that people's arrogance/selfishness and anger issue's come out when a few silly bits like weapons have a higher number on them so people can show off around the place. The game itself is great love it, but the Kindergarden that is the raid heck worst place to go.