I have to agree. Though I did like the Arena games, besides having great mechanics for a fighting game, we got a chance to see the P3 crew again, and what their life after the events of P3 was like. [spoiler]Always knew Stupei was a loser[/spoiler] Also imo I thought Minazuki was a great character in Ultimax. I just felt like Q, and DAN are/were unnecessary.