I know what you mean. Luckily I have a group of friends with kids who I play with so we are our own Dads of Destiny. Not worried about being in a clan myself. Of course it's always nice to have a few high quality players to help out but we do alright. I would happily play with girl gamers and even if they sucked, we would just have fun with it. Online social gaming should be an enjoyable experience regardless of player standards. As with anything, there will always be people who aren't as good as others but rather than insulting, I find I get more enjoyment from helping. My best Destiny moment was running a few randoms through VoG and Crota with a friend of mine. The randoms in the group said that they had tried numerous times and always failed because they didn't know the mechanics etc. the sheer joy and excitement from them getting gear and weapons made me proud. We still play from time to time and they still say thanks even now.