Yes I agree with u, I love the dark below vanguard armor, specifically the warlock, I ascended all of that armor i have and still use it, because I LIKE IT, yes its not new but oh well but I use the new Loner.Rebel and am farming away Vanguard Dragon to get more of them but I want to be able to bring this amazing weapon forward through destiny but that doesnt mean i wont change on to something new, or go back on something old. And people why do you not want to ascend anymore? Do you realize you're favorite exotics, thorn, last word, you're precious G-horn, all of those will be rendered obsolete without ascension. Point made