The more whiny it becomes is because us fans WANT Destiny to be the game that doesn't turn us away. We WANT it to be perfect even though it's riddled with issues. It's a game we love, and people whining is a direct result of showing how great this game can be as long as Bungie listens to its fans! We WANT so much from Destiny, and the only way things will get better is if we - 'whine.'