I think I'm gonna look on the forums today for a post looking for 28's for a VOG hard. Surely there must be some out there! Those were the days of a 2 hour raid grind. And you noobish -blam!-ers...... let me tell you, VOG HM as a 28 takes a HELL of a lot more skill than Crota, or anything that the POE has to offer. You needed a fireteam of six -blam!-ing stud-killers! Any -blam!-up, and you were done. The good ol' days!