While I understand what OP is saying here, you can't neglect what little story we have for your own theories lol. Ogres are Thrall, and yes I read the whole post; to say they aren't is silly and lashing out at those who disagree makes you look like a child. That being said, just give us a thrall that's halfway through the mutation process, and we could have one hell of a fight: thrall aggressiveness and claws with the power and eye attacks of an ogre that chases you around nonstop.