[quote]Haha, you're one to talk with your 1.1 k/d. I had 3 Gjallahorns at 365 the day HoW launched. I'm far more skilled than you will ever be, and although I do use Gjallahorn a lot, I don't need it for any encounter, including soloing Crota's End and 2-manning VoG. With this nerf, hopefully we'll see more variety in PvE. You can go ahead and keep asking people to have Ghorn to make up for your lack of skill though. Have a nice day.[/quote] Sounds like I struck a cord. Did you get carried? I usually earn my stuff so who carried you? I figured you must've of gotten carried through Trials or Skolas fight? Normally people don't get that much butt hurt unless they actually did get carried >.> Personally I prefer to do the work myself and earn it myself. [spoiler]I won't carry you with my through raids even if you have a Ghorn since you must be one of those bads that got it through going 1-18 in crucible.[/spoiler] Maybe you should stop relying on Hawkmoon and Thorn in crucible? I personally prefer to use other guns that take little bit more effort.