I'm sick of the "NERF THIS NERF THAT" as well bro, it's not OP when hawkmoon is a 2 shot just as well & red death and my favorite weapon in the game " The Messenger " is a "Two Shot/Two Burst" people just see thorn more often in crucible so they don't even Try to give other weapons like that a chance, making everyone use it. I think you should go into a game not using thorn but only pull out THORN IF YOU ABSOLUTELY GETTING OBLITERATED BY THE OTHER TEAM YHAT IS USING IT. Other than that try other weapons have fun and try to keep thorn out of crucible as much as you can thus making others not use it as much due to not dying by it. HAVE FUN. TRY OTHER WEAPONS. SUROS REGIME IS STILL RESPECTIVELY GOOD DUE TO ACCURACY EVEN THO IT TOOK A HUGE NERF IN "TDB" BUT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THIS.... I OUTPLAY KIDS USING THORN ALL THE TIME, w/ ME USING SUROS REGIME ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS KNOW HOW TO STRAFE WELL AND HAVE GOOD GUNSKILL AND YOULL WIN THE GF EVERYTIME GUARENTEED.... LEARN GUNSKILL. THORN IS NOT OP.