I'm terrible at crucible. Like, playing with my eyes closed and a backwards controller bad. Yet, I have no problem beating thorn users. I have no problem avoiding a golden gun. I hide behind a wall in both situations, and I don't charge. And the great thing about this is the fact that I'll usually win against these people. They're using these tactics or exploits because they also [i]suck[/i]. The ones that beat me are people that are actually good. So, if people are resorting to these cheap tactics to win, and they succeed, doesn't that mean that you also aren't very good? What happens when you play somebody who is just more skilled? Like a sniper? Shouldn't you just learn the game better? There will always be a meta-game, no matter what gets nerfed. Please stop complaining. When something gets nerfed, people will find the next easy win and beat you, unless you develop more skill. That's really the only way to combat it. :)