It's comparable to other hand cannons in game and has its pro's and cons like other weapons choices imo. The most dangerous aspect to thorn for me is the DoT that ticks health away and there are things like the warlock flame shield, titan bubble and red death/suros perks that can counter the Thorn DoT. Hawkmoon has a chance to one shot kill people, and other hand cannons are usually 2-3 headshot kills. I don't understand these threads that call for a nerf to certain widely used weapons. It would be more constructive to start a thread on how to counter said weapon more effectively. Also, OP asks for a reasonable discussion however the poll choices are very biased against people who would disagree with a nerf.