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Modificato da Demagogue:
5/3/2015 3:30:17 AM
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Do you have a pet dog? Compare it to other dogs. Compare it to a wolf. Compare it to a dire wolf.
Do you have a hand? Compare it's skeletal structure to a bat's wing. Compare it's skeletal structure to a whale's flipper.
There's your proof.
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What's your argument... That dogs almost devolved from wolves to become domestic animals that can't survive on their own... That makes plenty of sense...
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Nothing devolves.
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_breeding]Yep.[/url]
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Ok well I this is your argument, give me some examples of how dogs have "evolved" or natural selection has taken place for the specie's benefit in nature.
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Modificato da Demagogue: 5/3/2015 3:59:46 AMThey became domesticated, and now they are the most successful of the Carnivorans.
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Haven't they always been one of the most successful carnivores... And humans domesticated them. It didn't just happen on its own.
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Uh... No. Wolves are kinda in tough place right now. The species that have adapted to coexist with humans are the ones that are doing well.
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But you were saying that dogs have changed in order to survive and are the most successful of the "carnivorans" and now you say they are not doing well...
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Wolves are not the same as dogs...
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Your argument is kind of not making sense to me, just recap your point if you don't mind. I don't follow.
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Modificato da Demagogue: 5/4/2015 2:35:09 AMDogs are now a thing because something like a wolf adapted in order to coexist with humans. Wolves are now a thing because something like a wolf didn't adapt in order to coexist with humans. [i][b][u]Evolution[/u][/b][/i]
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Dogs have always been here, humans domesticated them. They did not "adapt" and domesticate themselves in order to coexist with humans. And wolves are dying out due to humans are encroaching on their habitat and ruining it. Not because they didn't adapt or "evolve".
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You fail to understand that humans are not separate from the environment. We ARE the environment.
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Yeah. Your point? Just because we are the environment doesn't mean anything... It doesn't prove evolution nor does it support your point about the wolves and dogs.
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Why not? Does it not remove your criticisms? Did you just not voice them all in your last comment?
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This guy is very dense isn't he...
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Density would imply mass...
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Humans are not just part of the environment. We aw why the Earth exists and we can govern whether a species changes or not like dogs from wolves.
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Modificato da Demagogue: 5/4/2015 12:29:30 PMBut you just said we were. No we aren't. Same with literally every other species.
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I wasn't thinking it through when I said we were. And there is no animal that thinks to all of a sudden adapt to their environment in order for their species to survive without human governing. Species have not changed much over time, humans have, and that affects the animals. So how can you deny that humans were specifically created to govern the Earth and its creatures? (That is what it's says in the Bible, just in case you didn't know where I got that from.)
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Modificato da Demagogue: 5/4/2015 4:41:06 PMEvolution has nothing to do with cognition. Species have changed greatly over time. I can deny it because there is no proof of it.
