Also, I started reading the comments after I posted... So many people say "it's not cheesing" when you hide under those crates. Come on... Do you really believe that? Get real. Just think of it this way.. If you have defeated valus in a strike (countless times) you should try and play the nightfall with a similar tactic, but of course more cautious. Just realize when the enemies will start spawning, when valus will start moving, and most importantly, when those goddamn psions come out. (His health bar is the indicator.) Also, know where the enemies are coming from... Get them quick before they spread out. I feel nightfall is the true test of the elite strike players. What grinds my gears - people that hide under the stairs in a regular roc strike. Like.. Why? You can respawn in 30 seconds if things hit the fan.. Especially 32s.. How did u get there if you still need to hide?