I jumped into a fireteam the other day with a few buddies. We went to LFG to find two more players for VoG HM. One of my buddies was using his old VoG gear, and was level 30. I find a player who says he's 32, ghorn and Black Hammer and invite him. In pops this level 31 squeaker with unmaxed oversoul edict, unmaxed ghorn (no wolfpack) and 300 Black hammer. I say "wait man, I thought you were 32". In his unfathomably shrill tone, he blurts out "yeah I just need like 2 more shards. I got ghorn though!!!!!". Obviously I immediately regret adding him. I don't kick him though, because he's obviously done crota so it was possible he knew what he was doing. We make it to confluxes without a hitch, and start defending mid. Squeaker and my level 30 buddy go to the right side together. *Guardian down* "WHAT THE -blam!- DUDE, WHY IS THIS LEVEL 30 NOOB OVER HERE WITH ME. HE JUST MADE ME DIE! I'M NOT GOING TO CARRY THIS GUY. KICK THIS DOUCHEBAG!" I did kick someone, but it wasn't the level 30. I honestly lean both ways on this. After TDB, most of the time level 30 equates to a player with un-upgraded vendor gear. If my old raid team still played, it wouldn't be a problem to carry an 1800 grimoire level 30 with non-max weapons through the raid. Since most of them quit, I have to run it with random LFG kids. No way am I allowing that level 30 into a team that I know nothing about in the first place. If I run an LFG raid, most of the time I just want it to be over ASAP. On the other hand if a 2600 grimoire level 30 joins and has VoG weapons and is simply playing his alt, I have no issue with it. Bottom line is, if you're just jumping into raiding try normal mode until you get decent VoG weapons and learn the mechanics.