No, this isn't pay to win. Clash of clans is pay to win. Angry birds is kinda getting pay to win now. A game with DLC =/= p2w A game with micro transactions and huge limits without buying extra currencies etc. (Rushing builds on games like Dungeon Keeper for example) is p2w, because you basically have to keep putting money in the game to be able to put time into it. This isn't what Destiny does. You can play the game without the DLC. The things you're limited on without paying are 2 levels, a raid and a strike. A pay to win game wouldn't even let you play the game for more than half an hour without either putting money into it or making you wait 24hrs to play it again. Edit: read your last edit after going on that little rant sorry lol