Yeah, Iron Banner is just no longer fun, even with a full team of friends. I love that Bungie's "highly competitive" playlist is really just a bunch of tryhards, hiding behind guns like Thorn, Suros Regime and Vex Mythoclast. Sure, they're some of the best guns in Crucible, but they also take very little skill to use effectively. I'd rather use guns that take a little more thought and precision, even if doing so puts me at a disadvantage. I'm really only playing this time to get the Scout Rifle, then I think I'll be done with Iron Banner forever. Unless Bungie implements some serious changes, like the following: 1) No exotic weapons allowed in Iron Banner 2) No one with k/d ratio of under 1.0 can access the IB playlist Then I'm done with this sad excuse for a competitive playlist.