Ik it's funny. The sunsinger shines over a single grenade and everyone cries over it. Why didn't anyone cry during vanilla, tdb amd how. It's never been changed.

well in vanilla destiny people still spammed solar nades and stickies before the trend of the fire bolt and arc bolt caught on....... also the supers in year one were about the only thing making some classes overpowered and when the supers were nerfed the true imbalances started to show, kinda like mowing tall grass you never know what you might find....

But the supers were barely touched. And the firebolt isn't op. To many things in this game are so much more efficient at killing you more quickyl than any of the grenades.

so fire bolt is not op but a thorn that kills in 3 shots despite the burn being applied or not is??? look supers make some classes better than the rest and the only thing annoying about warlock right now was clearly the burn for everyone both fire bolt burn and scorch melee look at my edit i state an easy change to burn that everyone would be fine with.

The burn has to activate on thorn for it to kill in 3 body shots. If you take away the burn in pvp on firebolt it would be pointless to use sunsinger ever. However it could be sped up. Instead of 8 seconds of burn speed it up to do all that damage in 3 or 4 secs.

thorn is a 3 shot kill on low - medium armored targets high armor is useless in PVP anyway unless your a titan and can max it out and fire bolt grenades would not be useless mainly because fire bolts are like arc bolt grenades the only difference being arc bolt jumps from a single target to another target while a fire bolt will hit multiple targets at once that are near the initial blast and if they remove burns all they need to do is make some minor changes, - make fire bolts have a bit more range on the initial scan blast by about 3 meters and perhaps increase the damage enough to bring a player into red but only kill if they have no shield - for thorn basically just make it 3 any guardian despite armor level, i mean without the burn its not the best hand cannon and its not the worst either so i don't think it would muddle with much hawkmoon will kill much faster and from further away without the lucky bullets...