Consider this; Halo; MC is 12 in start or sumthin Whole galaxy gets killed by fungus based hive mind life forms [b][i][u]TWICE[/u][/i][/b] Covenant have precursor tech [b][i][u]BEFORE[/u][/i][/b] humans, and have better tech than Humans----> they still lose Desticle: Cabal are very roman spartan culture based, they also have no lips or eyelids (atleast all but the psions do) Hive are grown from spores and their ships are made from [b][i][u]BONE[/u][/i][/b] which is pretty weak Fallen are two busy fighting each other to be a serious threat Star Trek: Whole galaxy nearly gets wiped out by an evolving hive networked computer program (borg) The voyager 1 probe nearly destroys the earth (old star trek movie, like seriously?! Cellphones are more advanced and powerful than that. They mostly talk and go diplomatic route to solve conflict Star Wars; The entire galaxy is taken over by the equivilent of stephen hawking (emp palp, old as heck, super smart, mostly jus sits in a chair) and a quadriplegic hooked up to a portable iron lung. So yea jus some interesting notes