I hate to say it, but it's the team not the individual players. If your team doesn't work together then nothing gets done, having a clear and present leader helps too. Crying about someone getting something you want is juvenile. I watched the ghorns get passed out during nightfalls yesterday, none for me, but you don't see me crying I brought a mostly virgin team through both VoG and crota in two hours. Then ran 32 PoE with two of them in an hour. VoG: clean run to Gorgon chest, almost had a Templar teleport denial, lost two people and filled the slots, gatekeepers, one try, newbs took the relics, 3 attempts at Atheon. Exotics: red death x2, thunderlord, Gear: tons of armor, handful of weapons Crota: Nobody died in the abyss, minimal death at the bridge, one attempt at the death singer, two for crota. Exotics: hawkmoon Gear: swordbreaker, hunger, tons of armor Not my favorite thing to say but maybe, just maybe, you need to "git gud scrub" and quit crying cause life's not fair?