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Plenty of evidence has been provided that this is a legit way to get more opportunities per week at an exotic. Can you provide any evidence to the contrary? If not then it would seem it is you who is spouting drivel.
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Evidence? You call "play the game" evidence? You call "Spelling it out that you should play the game" compelling evidence? The only fool here is the one who thinks this is "Awesome advise" Drivel you spit from your mouth to be sure. I see this as "[b]Common Knowledge/Common Sense[/b]"
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If what you got out of the OP is "play the game" then you missed the main point. The point is doing the normal mode raid before the hard mode raid will give you 9 more exotic opportunities each week. You say this is common knowledge and yet there is a whole thread full of people who disagree. Also not sure why you are quoting me as saying "Awesome advise" . I did not use that phrase, nor did I spell advice incorrectly.
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Plus, right after you corrected his grammar. You made your own grammar mistake, there isn't supposed to be an extra space behind quotations, silly. ;)
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I wouldn't ever really consider it a whole slough of people who don't consider it common knowledge, I'd say it's just you who doesn't consider it common knowledge. You have the intelligence of squirrel babies, you can't criticize someone for grammar over Internet, that's a maturity issue, although, with your birth that's just a plain issue. Our buddy could easily rebuttal with a statement about how you didn't capitalize the first letter of your username.
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Misspelling and misquoting are two completely different things. I wouldn't waste my time calling out every grammar mistake on the internet. But I am not going to ignore it when someone responds to me by misquoting me. If I had said "awesome advice" and he misspelled it that would be one thing but I never used those words at all. The OP's argument was that doing normal and then hard gives more exotic chances than doing only hard. I think there is no legitimate argument that this is common knowledge on this thread. It is quite clear from the comments here that the majority of people are not aware of this.
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Then you're saying a majority of the population is stupid :) good for you, you're muted for reasons of stupidity
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Edited by Cloudchief: 5/17/2015 10:26:02 PMWhy are you saying someone said something that they never said? Go take 15 minutes and read the posts in this thread and you can see with your own eyes about how many people did not know how this works. It is sad that you are blocking someone when you were the instigator. Yelsa at no point called anyone stupid or said the majority of the population is stupid. You are the one who is name calling. Pathetic that you can not argue points without throwing insults around or that you can not take a few minutes to see what the majority of the population actually things on this subject since there are plenty of posts here to give you a good idea of everyone's thoughts.
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It's called synonyms, 6th grade stuff right there :) if you passed. Pathetic you can't realize that just as much of the community if not more is stupid including you, if you didn't already know this than you are honestly straight up stupid. It's called Darwinism otherwise known as survival of the fittest. No I never said yelsa did "name call". But sir, I am just merely being honest with the insults I'm delivering, just like how your parents should have forgot to deliver you. (Slight bit of humor, don't cry, it's a joke) I can argue points just as well without insults, they're just a little something I add on for effect, easily subtract-able.
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I did not use the word stupid. I also did not use any synonym of the word stupid. You on the other hand have included it or synonymous phrases in several of your posts so far. I simply disagreed with Kage Goomba's assessments that the OP posted "drivel" and that what he said was common knowledge. The sheer number of people who have posted here to say that his method is incorrect proves the value of the original post. He is spreading knowledge to many people who did not know something. Whether they choose to act on that knowledge is up to them.
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How do I add a photo? You literally called him a spouting drivel
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I did not call him "a spouting drivel". I said that he was the one who was spouting drivel and not the OP. I was not questioning his intelligence but the accuracy of his words. Because what the OP said is not drivel, it is useful information for the many people who are not aware of it. This is not synonymous with calling him stupid unless you mean to claim that he was calling the OP stupid. I believe in both cases the word drivel was meant to imply that what the other person was saying was incorrect or of little value.
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That's considered an insult as I was taught, Sorry for the misconception. Fun fight :) have a good day man
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Well then I am curious why you take exception to my insult of Kage but not his insult of the OP. Regardless, I commend the OP for spreading knowledge even though he is taking alot of insults for it. It is unfortunate that so many people are opposed to sharing information with the community.
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Because I too, agree with cage, although I disagree with you, so as anyone would I will support someone I agree with and not someone I don't.
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Then perhaps you should be providing reasons why you believe the OP is incorrect, or what he is saying is not valuable. Instead so far, you have simply attempted to insulted others and attempted instigate a fight. I am not interested in fighting on the internet. I am interested getting the facts out there with regard to exotic drops. There is entirely too much unsupported misinformation. If you will look, the first thing I said to Kage was [quote]Plenty of evidence has been provided that this is a legit way to get more opportunities per week at an exotic. Can you provide any evidence to the contrary?[/quote]. No evidence has been provided only insults and several misquotes. Either he believes that it is not possible to do as the OP suggested more exotic chances by doing normal first. Or he believes that providing this information in a public place is of little value. Kage used the phrase "poor saps" to refer to people who "fell for" the OP's method. This certainly makes it sound as if Kage does not believe it is possible to get extra exotic opportunities by doing normal first and then hard. In that case, Kage is one of the people who could benefit from this post. One of many since it is not, as you claim, common knowledge.
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Prove me wrong ;) there's many more I scrolled by, I'd be happy to find more pal
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Your personal cliffnotes version. There are more but this should more than suffice to prove that what the OP says is not common knowledge. [quote]Your just using up both chances at once when you do it on hard, say with the exotic chest in vog, you grab it on normal then hard that's two chances for two chest openings.[/quote] [quote]I feel like I remember getting double exotics in VoG back in the day, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that Deathsinger only drops an exotic once per week. Not sure about Crota, but I'd assume he's the same[/quote] [quote]ive seen someone who ran on hard first get 2 exotics, plan c, and mida from one deathsinger so im failing to see your point[/quote] [quote]Well i think i'll be running the raids on normal next week. Your explanation seems to be quite right. Thanks for posting this helpful information[/quote] [quote]Just do the big wizard boss fight at crota on both modes either one you get exotics lol At least there u know u will get a exotic lol[/quote] [quote]If you open a hard mode gorgon chest you get 2 drops from the loot table[/quote] [quote]You cannot get drops from chest twice and deathsinger same thing you damn noob[/quote] [quote]people have got 2 exotics from atheon and crota. YOU get both your exotic chances when you do it on hard first.[/quote] [quote]You only get the chance for an exotic from deathsinger and chest once per week on both difficulties. Still get two from atheon and crota though. But doing it on harder difficulty grants you a higher chance.[/quote] [quote]You can only get gorgon chest on one difficulty. If you get it on normal it won't give you anything on hard. Your vog statement is invalid lol.[/quote] [quote]Hard mode has two drops. First drop is selected from normal loot table. Second is from hard loot table. Doing normal then hard creates illusion of more exotic chances because you are doing the activity twice[/quote] [quote]If you do hard first, you can get 2 exotics from one drop, due to the normal drops being included.[/quote] [quote]Vog chest- once per week per character[/quote] [quote]Your theory behind running Raids on normal and hard is flawed. You have the exact same chance, so it would make more sense to just run hard. When running normal the game has a programmed dice roll for only ONE exotic gun. On hard mode you have TWO dice rolls for an exotic gun, hence why sometimes people get double exotics a lot. Running normal mode then hard will give you ONE dice roll per difficulty so there is no point lol. Hard mode is literally double loot.[/quote] [quote]Nope, beating the on hard just roles it twice which is why you can find people getting double drops from Aetheon.[/quote] [quote]But on hard it rolls the chance for exotics and normal gear as a chance as normal and hard atop of the hard rolls. It's all together instead of separate[/quote] [quote]Crota and Atheon have two chances (one on hard and one on normal) and running hard only will roll both the hard mode and normal mode chances at once. There is no way to increase your chances, or the number of rolls you get.[/quote] [quote][/quote]
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quote]Woah, playing the game increases your chance of getting rewards?! Who knew!?!?[/quote]
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quote]I think most people already already figured out the higher chance of getting stuff if they run 3 characters in raids. Nothing new here.[/quote]
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As I said to this player (who only runs the raid once per week), the point is not to run it on 3 characters. That is common knowledge certainly. The point is to run it on normal first and then hard.
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Sorry but your not really Into something....prove me wrong.[/quote]
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The full quote which clearly shows that what the OP is saying is not common knowledge is this: [quote]Pretty sure your not gettting more chances with this method man (whoo). Your just using up both chances at once when you do it on hard, say with the exotic chest in vog, you grab it on normal then hard that's two chances for two chest openings. Yet when you do it on only hard you open it up and use both of your chances at once. So that's two chances for one chest opening. Sorry but your not really Into something....prove me wrong.[/quote]
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I believe other wise