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由TheDragonLord83編輯: 1/3/2021 10:16:38 PM
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Eris Morn Rip Offs Unite! I Have Question Of Hive Sorts But Am To Lazy To Go To The World's Grave And Have Ghost Steal'em

I will be writing a story soon and need as much hive knowledge as I cah collect. Help a mortal man out here people. How did oryx get his wings? What is your interpitation of "worm wrestling"? Is the king morph heredity or pure luck mixed with certain conditions? If hive cah be taken, can worms be as well? If a taken worm was feed to a thrall how the hell would it effect it? If savathun can control taken does that mean she also has the power to take, or at least know how it works? Stupid question indeed, but does savathun have any known offspring? Same thing for Xio Aravth? Which one would you expect to have offspring that would later be strong enough to have wings? I know soul transference is a thing, but is soul fusion a thing among the hive? Is there anyone of significance on the dreadnaught at this point in time? Has there been any documented case of hive having a will of their own and wanting to leave the sword logic behind? Whats the chance they'd make it out alive with this type of thought process? Was savathun using -blam!- magic to cause the interference in season of arrivals or was she using the taken? How often do hive gift their offspring over to over broods (for example when savathun gave oryx malok to be taken)? How exactly does acendancy work for the hive? Can hive usw awoken tech andd relics? If not y steal them? What do hive call awoken? I'm sure there's more but I can't think it up right now.

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  • Books of sorrow will explain the king morph

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  • [quote]How did oryx get his wings?[/quote]Oryx decided he wanted wings so he grew some. He’s Oryx, reality bends and breaks to his will, and Hive bodies already morph throughout their lifetimes so it’s not so abnormal. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xxxviii-the-partition-of-death?highlight=Wings [quote]What is your interpitation of "worm wrestling"?[/quote]Probably related to the fact that every Worm is constantly trying to devour its host. He’s not physically fighting it, just fending it off as it tries to devour him. [quote]Is the king morph heredity or pure luck mixed with certain conditions?[/quote]Its not pure luck but we aren’t sure what actually leads to the King morph. Aurash was the king’s eldest child so she became the next king and developed the morph. So it seems that the firstborn of the king gets the morph or becoming the king somehow leads to the morph. It’s pretty uncertain. [quote]If hive cah be taken, can worms be as well?[/quote]Yes, Worms can be Taken like anything else. [quote]If a taken worm was feed to a thrall how the hell would it effect it?[/quote]We have no idea. That depends on what being Taken does to the Worm. Most Taken became the puppets of Oryx, only pursuing their thirst for the Light when they didn’t have direction, so a Taken Worm might not feed off of its host or follow the Worm Pact. If a Taken Worm fed on a Thrall it would probably have the exact same effect or no effect, and it’s very unlikely that it would give the Thrall any extra abilities. Being Taken fills weaknesses, so a Taken Worm might lose its dependence on having a host or any desire to feed on a host, meaning it might not feed on them. [quote]If savathun can control taken does that mean she also has the power to take, or at least know how it works?[/quote]No, she supposedly doesn’t know how to Take, only Oryx truly could. It’s hinted that Quria figured out how to cheat at Taking and Savathûn does that. [quote]Stupid question indeed, but does savathun have any known offspring? Same thing for Xio Aravth?[/quote]They both do. All members of their broods are their descendants. Neither has directly invaded our system yet and there’s been no lore about their heirs or Court members so naturally we haven’t encountered much lore of their lineage and leadership. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/670437828416634908/771465632851296276/Osmium_Court_Family_tree.png [quote]Which one would you expect to have offspring that would later be strong enough to have wings?[/quote]Xivu Arath’s children would have a better chance because they’re stronger in the Sword Logic. BUT what you should be asking is if even Xivu Arath can grow wings. She is now the most powerful living Hive, but her power is insignificant compared to Oryx’s. Remember that thanks to the Sword Logic Oryx had the combined power of Auryx, Savathûn, Xivu Arath and Akka, plus some. Some of the Worm Gods are probably still more powerful than Xivu Arath, and no one has been described to be powerful enough to bend reality on the level that Oryx could. [quote]I know soul transference is a thing, but is soul fusion a thing among the hive?[/quote]Like, putting two souls together? Combining two minds? Unlikely, but maybe the Hive could manage it, though I don’t see any reason too and honestly it seems a bit ridiculous. But unraveling souls and transferring one to another body, those were done in Inquisition of the Damned. [quote]Is there anyone of significance on the dreadnaught at this point in time?[/quote]No, Oryx’s Brood (and Crota’s) have had their leaders killed, all of Oryx’s lineage and their Courts, and their Broods are dying out. There is one Daughter of Crota who wasn’t confirmed dead, but she was most likely killed by Osiris and she’s pretty insignificant. [quote]Has there been any documented case of hive having a will of their own and wanting to leave the sword logic behind? Whats the chance they'd make it out alive with this type of thought process?[/quote]All Hive have a will of their own. It’s only Taken that -in most cases- don’t have wills. Many are just raised believing the Sword Logic, and they all have no choice but to follow it because of the Worm Pact. Nokris defied the Sword Logic and Savathûn is trying to as well, and most or all of Savathûn’s Brood betrayed the Sword Logic with her. [quote]Was savathun using -blam!- magic to cause the interference in season of arrivals or was she using the taken?[/quote]One of your words got censored so I might not know exactly what you want to say. The Taken had nothing to do with it. Savathûn used her own powers to cause the interference.

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    • [quote]I will be writing a story soon and need as much hive knowledge as I cah collect. Help a mortal man out here people. How did oryx get his wings? What is your interpitation of "worm wrestling"? Is the king morph heredity or pure luck mixed with certain conditions? If hive cah be taken, can worms be as well? If a taken worm was feed to a thrall how the hell would it effect it? If savathun can control taken does that mean she also has the power to take, or at least know how it works? Stupid question indeed, but does savathun have any known offspring? Same thing for Xio Aravth? Which one would you expect to have offspring that would later be strong enough to have wings? I know soul transference is a thing, but is soul fusion a thing among the hive? Is there anyone of significance on the dreadnaught at this point in time? Has there been any documented case of hive having a will of their own and wanting to leave the sword logic behind? Whats the chance they'd make it out alive with this type of thought process? Was savathun using -blam!- magic to cause the interference in season of arrivals or was she using the taken? I'm sure there's more but I can't think it up right now.[/quote] 1. He willed it so, he was so powerful he could just grow his wings on command 2. Think of it like this: wrestling with an upset stomach. You're not actually in a brawl, you're just fighting it metaphorically. In Oryx's case it was probably trying to take a few chomps out of him 3. Very little information is known about morphs. It's possible in nature any hive could take a kings morph but in their society only one can at a time 4. Ehhh... Probably not? Hard to explain 5. See previous answer 6. Savathune's control over the taken had never been fully explained. Some believe she acquired the tablets of ruin, while others believe she uses Quria to simulate Oryx and just mass produce taken. The second explanation explains why all the taken are still using D1 models save for a couple Outliers 7. Savathune has multiple: Malok, Bûlwar, Dul incaru etc. As for Xivu it's unknown but likely (before anyone mentions her taken children in the dreaming city: Oryx had the exact same thing back in D1, a bunch of taken wizards. So they're not actually her kids) 8. Xivu 9. Yes, Inquisition of the damned for example 10. Most likely not. The Cabal have either died or joined the red legion, and the remaining Hive are most likely starving to death and infighting just to keep their worms fed 11. Yes, literally savathune. But remember, abandoning the sword logic doesn't mean you're good now, the sword logic is simply a code of ethics essentially 12. Nokris and Savathune were blocking use from receiving the Darkness' messages by barricading the tree of silver wings and desperately trying to keep us away/kill us

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      • As far as we know only Oryx can Take. Balwûr is referred to as "Daughter of Savathûn" in her grimoire card. Savathûn is also stated to be the mother of Malok. [spoiler]Idk if this is right, any lore nerds can correct me[/spoiler]

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      • I know about the first one. He wanted to. Thats it.

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