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10/23/2019 9:27:30 AM
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Bright Dust economy is just... poor

So yeah, this season has been fun and strong with Vex Offensive and the Nightmares. But it has one big negative mark. Namely Bright Dust. Before Shadowkeep dropped, I had 14k after dismanteling all Eververse items. Right now in the 4th week I am down to 400. I have only bought 4 exotic items and 1 legendary so far. 5 things, and my saved up Dust is gone. And with the Cosmetic Engrams being gone this season, there's no other way to get the items. Now, I can always earn back some Dust by doing the in-game bounties. Right? Right. Except with constant and efficient farming, you only net 200 to 250 per hour. That's 10 to 15 hours of work for a single exotic ghost. Even before Shadowkeep, we got 200 dust [i]per bounty[/i] as a default. We could get a over 2k per hour. How did we get such a drop? How did we go from a steady dust income if you put in some effort, to scraping dust together if you keep at it for hours? How did the economy taking such a massive hit seem like a good idea? Does this really get people to buy the overpriced Silver in order to get cosmetics? I may be biased to liking the previous setting for our Dust economy over the current one, but I don't think Silver will get any more use out of this either. It's just all negative for everyone. I just dread to think what Festival of the Lost will bring. Because so far it does not look good at all.

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  • It’s about money. D2 is now free. The owners of Bumgie have their needs. They need us to support their lavish lifestyles so they need us to buy from Eververse. Bright dust gets us free stuff so it is now bad in their eyes. They don’t care if it’s fair or popular and they sure don’t care what we think. I have around 73,000 bright dust since I hardly ever buy anything.

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  • This is the one thing that's making me want to quit destiny 2 altogether. Destiny has been a way of life for me since d1 beta. Now since shadowkeep launch I have managed to get 2.160 bright dust. I have noticed that bungie do sell items for bright dust but the sources of obtaining it have been seriously limited since shadowkeep. You can see how much effort they have put into EV items to make them look good (better than anything before) but it's silver only! They gave us the bullshit "nostalgic engram" so we can't get any new EV items. They blame Activision for the greed but bungie are just as bad if not worse at least then we could earn them in game by getting bright engrams. Now it's completely locked behind a pay wall. Then with the limiting of bright dust (in a shady way) yes you can get it from bounties but it's like 20 BD per pointy. So to get a exotic sparrow that's 2500 BD that's 125 bounties. That's stupid and purposely done by bungie to make you buy silver. They put more effort into EV than in game items that are 95% reskins. I used to be hardcore destiny fan and stood by the game and bungie through all the BS but now I can't do it anymore. They are getting too greedy and lazy. Shadowkeep was a huge disappointment (not enough content) remember season of undying wasn't shadowkeep I'm taking about shadowkeep as a stand alone dlc. If compared to ROI you can tell that bungie have been very lazy in making unique content. Now they have given some bullshit excuse covering their own ass saying "future seasons will have less content but HIGHER QUALITY CONTENT???" (RASPUTIN ONLINE // TRANSLATING //FROM // BUNGIEBULLSHIT // PROCESSING........... ///..... //we have your money now and we are going to give you the minimum amount of content that's 98% reskins or reterning content so we can put all our efforts into making evervurse items the best looking and highest quality in the game so you will spend £8 for 1 exotic ornament TRANSLATION COMPLETE.... / this is a disgusting way to treat loyal fans. Also the prices of items for bright dust is the same price as before shadowkeep when bright dust was easy to get now it's not the prices should be lower. Bright dust is rarer than 1000k voices now. I know it's pointless ranting as bungie will not change it because ££ is what drives them at then end of the day and EV brings in more money than any DLC with less work and using less of their budget. They have now worked that out and its very obvious. IF players stop buying silver as a protest then bungo might listen but as long as EV is pulling in 100% profits then it won't change. I have vowed to never buy silver and no matter what they bring out I won't enable them. I didn't in D1 and I won't in D2. Soon EV will take over the whole game it's already in our menus so bungie have made it easier to buy silver. Please don't buy silver show bungie we have the power not them

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  • Dude, I've been posting about that since the Luke Smith blog told us to dismantle our items. I KNEW they were gonna throttle the Bright Dust economy. Bungie's design philosophy and design practices are so easily predictable at this point a kindergartener could do it. The entire time, and even now, you get shit on left and right by the internet tough talking hobo looking Guardians who love to talk about how well they do using an obscure non meta weapon in PvP with their .90 K/D ratio and haven't spent a single dime on their cosmetics. OR, you get the hopeless fanboys and fangirls who go to insane lengths to justify any legal immorality on Bungie's part no matter what. I mean, I'm all for being a fan of something. But those hopeless guys and gals are so far gone they don't care about quality anymore, only quantity. At this point I'm positive the entire dev team could shit in rusty buckets, sprinkle sugar on it, market it as Guardian Ice Cream, and those poor -blam!- would flock in droves to purchase and eat it with smiles on their faces. Eververse is a lost cause to the rational player. Either grind your weekly Dust or give up. Destiny is nothing but MTX central now.

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  • Lono, or say no to rage, made a point about what’s the worth of using real life money to buy for eververse, if you’re just able to easily grind out the items every week you were able to buy 5 eververse items with bright dust so either you grind repeatable bounties for it, or you just buy it up front. because if bright dust ran the economy moreso than silver we wont get things like exotic quests or dungeons

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  • 由Cinderchar編輯: 10/23/2019 6:22:50 PM
    What does the bright dust economy matter when there is almost nothing to buy anyways? 90% of what you see in the store will not actually be sold for bright dust at any point this season.

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    • How to fix? Spider sells and buys bright dust. You're welcome

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      • Bump for the sake of keeping this on topof the forums Bungie needs to wake up

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      • We didn't get 200 dust per bounty, wasn't that only the weekly one, and the dailies gave like 20 or something? You guys keep making stuff up

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        • Didn't Luke Smith state you would get bright dust dropping as you played the game.

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          • I predicted this issue when they announced the changes to bright engrams, eververse items no longer dismantling into dust and the changes to bounties. I was routinely laughed at by all the fan boys.... I was wrong, and I should wait until Shadowkeep.... then I would see how wrong I was to doubt Bungie and call them greedy.... Well, I was right 😆

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            • Everyone say it with me “MAKING GAMES IS HARD !” But making ridiculous priced cosmetics is EZ . I mean why try and make new loot to chase for you players when you can just milk Them like the GULLA-BULLS they are . Even eververse is getting lame , the amount of loot in there is sad like Bungie is just giving up and working on the next game .

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            • 由PilksUK編輯: 10/23/2019 12:33:06 PM
              When the changes were announced I made a big post breaking it all down and how it was Bungies way to control how much a person could earn on a weekly basis and make silver more enticing I also said I would not be surprised if silver prices in the cashshop and real world cost of silver went up and well it did.. Everything got at least a 100 silver price bump and the real world cost of silver went up by like a £1. If shadowkeep wasn't so generic and basic even compared to warmind or CoO then I might of been able to give them a pass on bright dust changes but as is Shadowkeep does nothing new doesn't even take lessons from the better content they did in the past.. and the story...well its the worst they have done. Right now Destiny 2 is one of the worst f2p games going.

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              • I tried to warn people, I really did. Nobody wanted to hear my complaining. "No, it'll be better because you can get stuff from your collections without using bright dust". Yep, that was your bright dust output. What people ignored was that control was being taken away from them in terms of how much bright dust they could earn. If Bungie were smart, they would have allowed people to continue to dismantle items for bright dust and simply had collection costs perfectly match dismantle kickback, effectively eliminating the cost and encouraging players like me to buy bright engrams for seasons they missed, knowing they can at least dismantle for bright dust if they don't get what they need. But, as usual, Bungie seem to not really have a solid grasp on what they're doing, even when it comes to monetization. I know it's an MMO but I don't think you're supposed to see complete game system overhauls (not improvements) every few months.

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              • 由Courrier-Mojave編輯: 10/25/2019 8:25:34 AM
                And please... Can we stop saying thing like " i warn people but they don't listen " bla bla bla. Who cares now ? The only we should do is to be united against Bungieverse like in Y1. We need a petition like before. They need to feel the pressure of their players.

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              • Why play the game anymore, it’s such a waste of time and money. Bungie is worse than Activision and EA but plebs keep making excuses for their abhorrent actions. How sad.

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              • 由TheShadow-cali編輯: 10/24/2019 6:39:18 AM
                So correct me if I'm wrong, but once again Bungie is not offering an engram for the festival of cost? Let me get this straight, Bungie supposedly drops Activision, Bragging by throwing a little party and acts like they will be just fine money and all right? but in the last 6 months, they have been acting like they are broke using Tess. What gives? I don't mind any gaming company using things like Eververse to make a profit, I'm all for it if they actually update their game Bungie, caught! Bungie has been more selfish then they have ever been in this game's history in these last 6 months. Let's look at the truth of what Bungie actually did... [spoiler]Removed the matrix Jacked up the cost to purchase certain items but not being able to purchase all items with bright dust Removes a few options to collect bright dust Shuts down Eververse to where you can't use bright dust Removes the option to be able to acquire event engrams Over prices items that you can purchase with silver[/spoiler] And I'm sure there are other things like this that I found interesting https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/dj1dl5/eververse_is_broken/ Yeah, this company has become selfish when they use excuses like this not to update the game https://stevivor.com/features/interviews/destiny-2-vendor-refresh-unlikely-as-bungie-looks-forward/ See, some might try to use the weak at best argument, "Destiny is free to play now", but they don't look at the fact of how much money people have literally poured into this game the last 5 years and Bungie can't show a little gratitude with Eververse? I don't care who likes to defend Bungie. This is pure BS for the lack of effort put into this expansion that a small team vs 3 studies that created ROI did better work. On top of it, Eververse was nowhere near an issue as it is now. Edit: This is what Eververse was created for, but it's doesn't seem to be working as intended. https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/13672/7_Introducing-Eververse-Trading-Company

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                • Yep removing bright engrams as a reward every time you finish the blue XP bar was a huge mistake on Bungie's part. The only main source for bright dust are the bounties. This is going to be very scarce especially for Festival of the Lost since Bungie confirmed on Twitter that the items we saw for the Festival of the Lost post for 2019 those items like the ghosts and the ornaments are purchasable with bright dust.

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                • If you are only able to do 2 strike bounties in an hour, you are doing something WRONG. If you are doing something besides strike bounties, you’re making it harder on yourself. Strikes take 9-13 minutes. That’s four strikes per hour. Most bounties take one strike maybe two and you can stock up on them before going. You can knock out ten bounties in an hour easy. Stop with the whining. If you want dust, grind it out. It’s chimp simple.

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                  • I started with 300 bright dust and had 60 bounties finished across 2 players went into Vex Offensive with some friends twice to get increased xp... Now I'm sitting at 1598 bright dust! I won't getting more Eververse stuff at this rate!

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                  • 由kinga編輯: 10/25/2019 7:09:10 PM
                    E-verse is to expensive and weighted to heavily against bright dust in favor of Silver. They want us to spend more real money on Silver to inflate the bottom line. Still sitting on Silver I bought more then a year ago and bright dust items are so expensive and with the limited selection available are nothing for Bungie or Tess to be proud of in game. The writing was on the wall just before this last season dropped and the warnings that bright dust would no longer be a commodity we would get back when getting rid of items. The best all guardians can do is speak with our wallets and don’t purchase Silver in the future until the items at 200, 500, 800 Silver are price more reasonably say 20, 50, or 80 silver. 800 silver for a pretty Dodad or $8 real dollars or more for some sets that may be taken away in a future update like other content has repeatedly, is to expensive.

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                  • No you didn’t. Those Eververse bounties gave pitiful amounts of bright dust and could only be done once a day on each character, even if you did them all it would net you like 400 bright dust daily.

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                    • Eververse is simply too expensive, both regard Silver and Bright Dust. One Exotic Emote reachs the price of 4250 Bright Dust or 1000 Silver (which are basically 10 Euro/Dollars). It is simply too much. Yes, we can farm Bright Dust, this is true, but since the launch of Shadowkeep it seems that we need ages just to collect a little ammount of it. And yes, these are just Exstetic Items so they are not really important in the end, but there are players who also enjoy the "fashion side" of the game, and they may feel themselves cut out from it. Also, we don't have a Seasonal Engram, which means that the only way to obtain these items is by buying them with Bright Dust. Right now I'm keeping my Bright Dust only for very few things like the Empireal Cartographer Armor Ornaments and I'm avoiding to buy other Sparrows, Shells or Exotic Emotes in general. P.S: @Cozmo, this should be one of those threads that you should check and pass the feedback to the whatever Bungie's team is behind Eververse.

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                      • Not forgetting they persuaded lots of players to part with bright dust for their Bad Juju hmmm 🤔

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                        When you think about the expanse of time our lifespans are so short that technically we will all be dead soon, so what does it really matter? Ps. I'm also available for birthday parties

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                        • Great article from 2017 about the damage Eververse has on game reward design https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/12/09/the-math-behind-why-eververse-is-going-to-strangle-destiny-2-to-death/amp/

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