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Edited by Lacuna:
10/6/2016 1:13:09 PM
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For those of you complaining about stormcaller
I'm here to say why their melee and super are actually balanced.
MELEE:
While the melee is the longest range in the game, it is also the slowest, so it can be hard to follow up.
"But Sky, what about Shotgun-melee combo?"
Even a titan could do this tbh. Or just put another shot into you.
SUPER:
I don't see people whining about it's power, just its duration. The duration is balanced out by the fact that it takes a little time to kill instead of being instant death. If you think about it, something that kills instantly would be short-lived. Fun Fact: When used correctly, arcblade and hammers can last longer, just stop being stupid and spamming the attack.
"But Transcen-"
Transcendence only works when the melee and grenade are fully charged.
Okay, I'm done now.
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#Destiny
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13 Replies"Slowest in the game." And yet it doesn't matter how slow it is because it will LITERALLY track the target. Go ahead. Try it. I'm serious. "It's the only super with a time to kill." A very fast time to kill. As well you have a LOT of mobility (ionic blink, WHICH CAN BE SPAMMED WITHOUT A COOLDOWN), a LOT of recovery (warlocks man) and the armor bonus from the super itself. It can chain kill extremely fast. You don't have to look at people to kill them and it has a LOT of range. And not to mention the duration. Yes, the grenades suck. Or do they? Because the storm grenade will do a SHIT ton of damage and hit you when you aren't even in the second blast's radius. Blade dancer is RNG sometimes and has less armor and recovery. I would say less agility too, but when the Blade dancer is up close its very hard to hit. So it has that. You actually have to aim hammers at people, it doesn't just chain kill 3 people instantly. And there's travel time and the occasional "I hit that guy and he took 4 damage. The -blam!-?" Warlocks are so biased about being warlocks.
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How can you say the melees are balanced when I can legitimately get sniped by them?
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2 RepliesIf you die from a Stormcaller. DO NOT respawn right away, wait it out until the game spawns you in. By then, the super will be gone and you won't be killed twice by it. Simple.
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1 ReplyCan I just add that unlike Bladedancers and Sunbreakers, a Stormcaller does not have the perk to regain health after a kill? Making it extremely easy to stop a Stormcalled from mid to long range. Some things which can 1-shot an active Stormcaller: - Sniper headshot - one Sunbreaker hammer - one Arcblade swipe - one Golden Gun - one Nova Bomb - one FoH - one rocket - one (strong) fusion rifle Only 3 of these can stop a Sunbreaker and 4 or 5 a Bladedancer. I'd say balancing is fine.
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Edited by Kadziet: 10/7/2016 6:30:01 PMI played on my Stormcaller. Haven't in a year. I destroyed in Iron Banner. Consistently getting 4-6 kills with Super due to chaining and Ionic Blink. Warlock skating in, Shotgun, burst around, melee. Get two guys down to only HP. Melee, and chains and gets 2 with a single melee. Stormcaller is fantastically OP. I have 2 Hunters. I'd be incredibly stupid lucky to get 4 kills with my GG or BD. Nightstalker is just support and has it's uses. But Stormtrance? Super kills for days, man. I've never felt so OP. It was great. I can see why people don't want it nerfed further. It's wayyy too good. Forgot to add an awesome moment. I was chasing. Couple of guys where nicked by my Super and nearly got away. They were around a corner, and moving away. Their teammate runs up, not knowing I'm there. I lightning him, and it chains the the guy behind him and then to the 2 guys running away. Got a sick multi-kill out of that.
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Even though I don't want Storm to get nerfed, I say it should purely because Blade and Striker WILL get nerfed a little bit after. [spoiler]Mad? Fight me, Hunters and Titans![/spoiler]
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The only problem I have with stormcaller is there melee. Warlocks already had one of the best melee's in the game and now they made it so you can snipe someone with it. Pair this with a shotgun that has up close and personal and claws of ahamkara and thats all you need to win.
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1 ReplyBitch get some playtime on your Titan and then tell me they can shotgun Merle like stormcallers
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Lol Dude I can't even argue with someone as stupid as the OP. The super lasts longer than any other roaming super, that is a fact. The melee is twice as long as any other melee on top of the ridiculous melee range warlocks have to begin with. And don't come at me with throwing knives, you actually have to aim them, and they've been nerfed into the ground. I mean I deleted my second hunter just to run a warlock main for trials bc of how ridiculous the class is. And just like bladedancer, sunsinger, and sun breakers, the stormcaller will be nerfed. It's okay though, we will all be here for you when you make your rage thread once it happens. Free hugs for everyone.
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I fusion rifled the shit out of a stormtranced warlock yesterday. It felt good. I shook my own hand and gave myself a raise and promotion at home. I am now Co-Director of Fun. It seems my wife isn't too happy with this promotion as she wanted the position to herself.
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So you're saying a Titan could melee me 30 feet back after hitting me with a shotgun outside of shotgun range for an easy kill? Have you ever played Titan bud? They have t Rex arms not 30 feet melees
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People just love needing the crap out of warlock. Always need something to complain about.
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5 RepliesIve been maining a stormcaller lately because of how broken it is. Ionic blink makes it almost impossible to shut down. Ive also been running claws with a matador that has close and or personal, and max int strength. All i have to do is hit somebody for 48 damage with the shotgun, and i can slap them from triple the range of my shotgun and theyll die. I get 2 of these melees that come back every 25 seconds
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Edited by Zonntohn: 10/7/2016 4:54:00 PMI run all three characters and sorry it needs re-balancing, Just as an example i have a 2.0 or higher on all three characters in Trials. I decided to finally level up my warlock about 5 weeks earlier and use it that weekend (Edit level up my stormcaller that is). Pulled a 2.54 so about .44 higher than normal over 150 plus games ( i help take people to lighthouse so it was not like i had stacked team etc). Upon mastering it more and more it is clear it is a little over powered and the shotgun melee works way to far out as you can shot earlier and melee earlier (way outside titan and hunters melee range).
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2 RepliesStormcaller is sooo op it's untrue.
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9 RepliesStormcaller is easy mode, that is all.
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Edited by Wormydog: 10/7/2016 4:41:29 PMAgreed. Supers seem pretty balanced. Sunsinger could stand to last a bit longer since they nerfed the burn perks.
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I hate the chain range
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4 RepliesYou're telling me, that if I'm a hammer or Arc blade, and you're a storm, and we both pop our supers and just stand there doing nothing. Mine will last longer? Nah. Or do you mean that if I pop hammers or arc blade and I spam RT, and you pop storm and hold RT, mine will last longer? Nah. Ohhh you mean that if I pop a hammer/arc blade, stand there and do nothing, and you pop storm and spam RT/ionic blink... mine might last longer? Legit Let's also not mention that storm takes an extra second to kill but guess what? YOU CAN SPAM MULTIPLE TARGETS AT ONCE WITHOUT AIMING AT NO EXTRA SUPER COST. WOAH. Now THATS a doozy!
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4 RepliesEdited by Orpheus49: 10/7/2016 4:36:42 PMThe melee isint fine, follow up melee dont matter if you kill your target the first time Stormcaller isint exactly op Its overpampered I have no problem with lethality, only the ease of use Stromcaller should be harder to aim, while the melee needs a lunge so it cant avoid shotguns
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Edited by Tasty Dubois: 10/7/2016 2:56:06 PMTitan Hammer chucker and blade dancer are still broken as hell I'm not saying to nerf them but.......god damn never had an easier time in pvp than with hunters and titans
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14 RepliesLandfall should take a portion of the super out though. It's basically a titan smash.
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you worlocks are annoying as hell. but i think i hate all classes equally ").
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I run storm caller all the time and get killed mid super by Titan melee. Very frustrating
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I think the stormcaller is easiest class to teamshot. Happens a lot to me. Also i've been oneshoted by a sniper during my super in iron banner.....a lot
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1 ReplyEdited by pinkpanda: 10/7/2016 1:19:57 PMAnyone else main a warlock and get confused for a second when you bring another class into the crucible and try to "melee" and hit nothing but air and can't understand what's happening and then you realize your not on your warlock anymore?
