[quote][quote]Witherhoard[/quote] omegalul How about, since ppl whine about it anyway we take back the nerf and can use it again for addclear without feeling terrible because of the half-duration we got from the pvp-directed nerf? [quote]Jotuun[/quote] Get killed by it once, shame on them Get killed by it twice, shame on you [quote]Shotguns[/quote] With SMGs being the beasts that they are right now, shotgun kills are quite the rare sight to me. And if you are running into them getting killed by a shotgun, that would be on you.[/quote] Everything you just said was jibberish. Some -blam!- fires Jotuun from across the map and I’m already engaged in another fight. That weapon tracks and the person firing it might not even be on my radar. So no it not my fault Regarding shotguns every Tom -blam!- and Titan is running aground with an overshield blasting his way into happiness, invis hunters too. Shotgun apes are numerous. I’m not buying that you aren’t being killed with shottys

Jotunn is kinda a meme. It's annoying but it's probably the easiest cheese weapon to deal with because it requires no skill to use but any half decent player will almost never die to the weapon. Most Jotunn users swap before the halfway point of a match just due to the fact once you get a kill people will know you have it and avoid it.

[quote]Jotunn is kinda a meme. It's annoying but it's probably the easiest cheese weapon to deal with because it requires no skill to use but any half decent player will almost never die to the weapon. Most Jotunn users swap before the halfway point of a match just due to the fact once you get a kill people will know you have it and avoid it.[/quote] That’s why it’s a top 20 used weapon in quick play along with 4 shotguns and witherhoard Let’s face it guardians are lazy. easy mode is all the rage. Most of the top 20 weapons require very little skill to use and with the endless special ammo dumps from every dead corpse they can spam it to their hearts content

[quote]Let’s face it guardians are lazy[/quote] Which is why you refuse to listen to the sound of a Jötunn being charged and fired (which btw can be heard over very long distances) and move accordingly I guess. Try Jötunn against good players, you will rarely land a hit (if any). [quote]I’m not buying that you aren’t being killed with shottys[/quote] Very rarely (as stated above) unless I choose to run into them and fail. The more common scenario is me killing them with my SMG or them killing me with theirs. [quote]Everything you just said was jibberish.[/quote] text comprehension is hard, yes Sidenote: My crucible stats aren't good and I am aware; a lot of this is from my lacking map awareness and bad-ish movement. Yours are looking even worse. Removing Jötunn / changing shotguns wouldn't change much, your real problems lie elsewhere. But you seem to live absolutely oblivious to that. In the meantime, may thee Jötunneers have their fun with you, while i turn 90° and start moving.

[quote]Sidenote: My crucible stats aren't good and I am aware; a lot of this is from my lacking map awareness and bad-ish movement. Yours are looking even worse. Removing Jötunn / changing shotguns wouldn't change much, your real problems lie elsewhere. But you seem to live absolutely oblivious to that. In the meantime, may thee Jötunneers have their fun with you, while i turn 90° and start moving.[/quote] My K/D is the direct result of my refusal to use one hit kill weapons. I don’t run invis hunter or the most overpowered subclass Arc Titan You however are a shining example of what easy mode is. You run both and clearly lean heavily on fusions and Wish Ender Your K/D is .10 better than mine and you use the most overpowered subclass in the game (according to True Vanguard) So if you want to talk -blam!- about my K/D remove your crutches and let’s see

[quote]My K/D is the direct result of my refusal to use one hit kill weapons.[/quote] omegalul, you wish (@ over 2k hours crucible) [quote]You run both and clearly lean heavily on fusions and Wish Ender[/quote] Wow. I play fusions in pve. I am aware that I am too bad for them in pvp and have barely ever used them. Funny, now Wishender and fusions in genral have made their appearance on your list of complaints too. Anything more to add to further increase you being ridiculous? Besides: The Wishender is for pve only ("lean heavily into"... GG wannabe). [quote]You run both[/quote] Which is why I have played a ton more void titan in the last 2 seasons, I assume. Or are you judging by what I have equipped right now? You are aware that pve exists, yeah? [quote]according to True Vanguard[/quote] Ah, Streamer said it so it is the universal truth. Yes, I confess to playing arc titan in [u]Mayhem[/u] to get the stupid seasonal challenges done. Other than that I haven't even been using that, mr strawman. And btw (another showing of reading comprehension being hard): [quote]My crucible stats aren't good and I am aware[/quote] This is what I wrote. I am aware. While you are Dunning-Krugering so hard, you think you are the one (if only the others just wouldn't use weapons without dignity and let you rise like the star you are). [quote]crutches[/quote] You people like to put this label on arbitrary things you don't like or cannot deal with. No one using this wording is to be taken seriously.