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5/5/2019 12:08:13 AM
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That's the idea of a pinnacle weapon. Those who earn it should be amazing w it. You know I get hate mail when I invade with my Oxygen? Team wipes.
Your very words prove the exact reason the nerfs arena bad decision.
They created a pinnacle weapon for those who could earn and use it well.
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I don’t even play pvp but am so extremely happy bungie is nerfing them, hope all you cruciwarrior elitist sweats enjoy your new pinnacle weapons! Meanwhile the core playbase is still engaged in pve and doesn’t give a s#{% about it.
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Weapons to make the best even better are an awful idea unless EVERYONE has access to them. Lower skill players will not get these weapons which puts them at a further disadvantage. That’s not a good thing. If destiny had a proper tiered bronze/silver/gold/platinum ranking system like some of the high end PvP games, then pinnacle weapons that make the best even better wouldn’t bother me at all. This game doesn’t have a big enough player base to support a tiered system though. I don’t think it or any sequels ever will.
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Pinnacle weapons for the crucible shouldn't have been made in the first place
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The skilled PVP players play a lot and dedicate a lot of time to getting those weapons. That’s what makes them separate and deserving of good pinnacle crucible weapons. Also, LH and NF are guns that require a lot of playing with and overcoming a learning curve to actually use the perks that make them better than other 180 hand cannons. They are skill-learned weapons. Not like firing a wardcliff into a group of thrall. Those who put in the time deserve what they grind for. What’s the point in grinding for things if there’s no reward? That’s what’s going to make people stop playing..
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Without tiers, there’s no point having the best players get the best weapons. That just pushes an even bigger gap between skilled and non skilled players. There’s no skill based matchmaking. No tiered ranking (bronze/silver/gold etc). I literally see LFG posts of good players looking for teams to stomp lower players in quickplay. What a horrible PvP system this game has.
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My response is Bungie MADE halo halo 2 had THE best ranking system I’ve had the pleasure of fighting for... The LH n NF in PC are not as widely used as last word n Ace of Spades.. soo they don’t need to keep nerfing .. as all that does is emerge another meta .. all the players that aren’t very good n whiney wil complain again n boom another nerf... nerf nerf nerf... Al they gotta do is balance the game on console n troubles sorted... lol Bloom Better maps Bigger maps designed for 6v6
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Bungie did everything right with halo you would think they would have learned
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Exactly buddy .. they should have some sort of ranking system in place so noobs don’t get matched against streamers .. no wonder people complain .. u keep getting killed by the same gun u start to think it’s the best when there are others out there .. the skill base needs to be addressed .. the maps are not designed for 6v6 they need new maps and orput in the D1 medium to long range popular maps in the rotation and finally have a look st reducing bloom
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I mean yeah the weapons is getting a ttk nerf and an rpm nerf it's still going to be just as effective just as powerful I'm still going to grind for it cause I'm a collector of weapons. I understand those who have put in the hours to get it but shitting on the less skilled players and trashing down on lower skilled players isnt called for and I've seen a lot of crucible players just rip into lower skilled and the funny thing is yeah people complain about the guns yes there are counters to those but when you have people that have those guns shitting on the lower skilled and trash talking them all because they have a weapon that they dont is what brings to light said weapons if people weren't so toxic in the crucible that have the weapons to those that don't perhaps complaints wouldn't be as high but the casuals are always going to blamed by the ones who all they do is play crucible and have more time than others. I went and played crucible in d1 and it was amazing no pinnacle weapons honestly the crucible was better without them.
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But they nerfed d1 to death let me find a link of a streamer there’s many but this dude goes into great detail in explaining what I can’t also end of d1 meta was snipes handcannons mainly icebreaker Let me know what u think buddy ps I’m in no way trying to argue ur point is just as valid as mine .. I’m just saying to nerf something u have to work so hard at getting then having nothing in place to stop players who achieve it bringing it to a very unbalanced basic players quick play lobby is wrong .. That needed fixing not nerfing the gun https://youtu.be/L3BoUflQPng
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Now as long as they dont touch my service revolver or spare rations I'll be fine lol and the ammo nerf to sleeper and whisper was uncalled for
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Oh I 100% agree with you on the whole subject nerfing needs to stop and better balancing needs to happen i was pissed when i finally got the ep shotty after grinding the hell out of ep and when i finally got it they nerfed trench barrel it's still a good shotty i hate that they messed with full auto and rapid fire frame shotty rpm. Like weapons supers ammo economy exotics things can be better balanced.
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They seem completely inept at balancing this game though.
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[quote] If destiny had a proper tiered bronze/silver/gold/platinum ranking system like some of the high end PvP games, then pinnacle weapons that make the best even better wouldn’t bother[/quote] I would LOVE a tiered system. Ive suggested how that would work several times. We have plenty of players and would likely see an increase in players. But, we still disagree on the guns. There isnt anything wrong with creating guns for people who can use them to their full potential. Those same guns are easily countered, both outside and inside their intended range.
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Yes, but not countered by lower tier players. My problem is those weapons push a bigger gap between lower and higher skilled players than regular weapons do. Seems more like higher skilled players just love that because they can stomp lower skilled players easier.
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Why don’t you just play more and put in the actual time instead of -blam!- and complaining? I’m a nurse and still have time to play and be good and you’re over there wasting rime complaining?
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I’ve played video games for 30 years. I had 8 months off after a redundancy as a holiday and played Destiny PvP every day to try and improve to get Luna’s. I’ve reached my personal skill ceiling. People seem to think its lack of effort and if you just play more, you’ll always get better. That’s completely incorrect. Everyone has different motor functions, levels of hand eye coordination. Pretty typical elitist attitude. I have Luna’s and Recluse now (thank you skip grenade spam from revelry) so I won’t be playing comp anymore.
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Edited by Mostpeacefully: 5/6/2019 6:33:56 PMWell.. To be honest... These gap doesn't if it would exist effect much These People get farmed anyway i proved it so often with the White 110 RPM handcanon.. They simply just destroying their Game including their community i mean look at all this posts which came up.. "We won you suck comp players" "we took your crutch" i mean WTF is that shit? This says all at the end noone is left many which earned this gun will leave even more you can't refound hard work or invested playtime...the numbers will drop more and more..comp will be literaly a dead show ( 90% played for the rewards competitive...) after the nerf causing more to quit...New ones won't stay cuz most of them still get stomped by Service Revolver and jotunn.. And Balance or varity a big fat lie from casuals.. I have all weapon perfection triumphs not even 1% of the playerbase has that.. And all ppl i know having this own Nf.. So if you would want varity these People arguing with it should at least have these triumphs. Balancing would be reached by buffing other things up to make it more enjoyable not by destroying everything.. It's like sayin the garden of my neighbour has more flowers than mine lets -blam!-in throw a grenade in my and his garden... We all know how this went out for destiny 1...the same will happen here if this nerf happen and in D3.. I invested a 2.0 kd and 1000 matches to get Nf.. And by now it gets nerfed that pretty much killed my Intention to play this Game anymore and if the nerf roles out i'm out of the Game.. Even for future parts of the franchise this is one step to much and i am disgusted by bungie..
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Im sure they do enjoy the gap. Im a mid skill player and can counter those guns, even in skilled hands. Im going to get LH and Recluse on Tuesday, finally. But, Im not so skilled as to be willing to gamble losing any more matches. So, Im going to wait for the 120 point bonus. One of the most important things about playing PvP... staying calm. Calm will help you counter because you will engage your mind to engage your body and game at a higher level.
