Uhm no. Are you purposely being dense? I said it's one of the reasons why D2 vanilla launched the way it did, but there are multiple factors as to why D2 launch failed. Was the lack of an endgame and meaningful reasons to play in Vanilla also fabricated by the pvp community? I'm a D1 beta player as well and play on Xbox and PS4, and followed Bungie after they left Microsoft and Halo, I have a good idea as well mate