Bungie should have made the first one a bit easier to give us a "taste" of what the forge is like.

To all of you who would say that entitlement is ruining the game, let me educate you. Entitlement: The fact of having a right to something. This is what we feel currently. We purchased the licence to content that Bungie put forth. They told us the information the knew they needed to tell in order to sell the game, they also however left out key information such as the light level of the first forge. That is the reason for our frustration, we have been promised content and have paid for it, only to realise that we have to play OLD content until such a time that we are able to play what little bit of NEW content there is. Some of you seem to think that we are acting entitled in a different way. Entitlement: The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. This is not true. We ask only for that which was promised and that which we purchased, nothing more. If you think that we are whining or acting like children and want to throw out this word, know that you are incorrect in your assumption. Also know that if you have NOT played the expansion so far, you should not be commenting on how we should feel about what we have, for you have no idea. If you have played and are ok with how this is being handled, I can't claim to know what you're thinking but I'll respect your thoughts as long as you also understand and respect the reason for our frustration. To those of you who are frustrated, I understand why and I am among your number. Remember when EP was 400? Remember how well that went as the only end game content outside of the raid? This is that exact situation except back then, we had a story to play and new adventures, etc. We were told there's no story and that's fine, but as you all understand, we have effectively been gated out of the content we have all paid for. So continue to voice your frustration so that hopefully Bungie will change something so that at the very least, we can all play the first forge. It's not like we want everything at the same time, just the first horde mode as promised. Sorry for the wall of text, but some people need to back the hell up and think before they start spouting crap and maybe, just maybe try to see things from someone elses point of view.

Phase 1 - 615 Phase 2 - 625 Boss - 630 Excellent introduction to forges when you can’t fuking do them! Might try it in a month when I’m at appropriate light (currently 611 and still getting my arse handed to me)

I expected the first forge to be at 600 with the final boss being 610 or something new in between doing the forge but instead, I have to play the exact same content I've had since forsaken launched before even getting to the new stuff. It's not a deal breaker for me because I currently have a lot of free time but it certainly leaves a bad taste.

Even if you beat the first round, there are two more and the final boss is 630. Going to be a few weeks for some people and God bless anyone who hadn't made it to 600 yet, they're hosed.

I don't see anyone complaining about the mechanics of the forge itself other than that it's very difficult. I do see occasional players running around feeling powerful and shutting down PEs before bonus loot can be had by people who might want it, or parading around looking sweet with bolts of lightining and volcanos exploding as they walk casually to the mail bot. At first I was like: this is an outrage, why is this so hard. But now I'm like: hey, when I see some badass running around I know they might really be a badass and not just some raw chump with time to grind away, although I get the impression most endgame holders are pretty solid anyway. Maybe not until the time after times will I be able to complete this forge with my best friend Bernie Mac'ing directions at me in a panic, but I like it just as it is anyway. One thing I do agree with - it will be a while before I buy endgame content after already buying Forsaken, which was a decision for me that took longer than the Black Friday sale. This, and I love this game. Oh well. Skillgates are a good idea if all skill levels.. well most skill levels haha are accounted for.

I beat it with the other admins in my clan and we aren’t even pve guys. We were all 600 light. It was tough for sure but super satisfying I’d suggest just figuring it out instead of complaining.

started today at 590 light. ended today at 606. its only day one stop crying you cant access endgame content immediately.

Recommended light is 610, there's 615 enemies on wave 1 and the boss is 630. They designed it for only people like Datto and other top tier raid groups, etc to be able to do it on day one and keep them satisfied with the challenge while the vast majority of the player base have nothing to do except grind old content and watch as these content creators and streamers run around and have fun with the new loot.

[quote]Whose brilliant idea was it to set the very first forge we encounter at light level 615? I’ve been trying to get through this for hours and at best we’ve managed 15. Might want to rethink this.[/quote] >Wants to play new content that has a power requirement >is under leveled >doesnt want to increase level and try again. Logic

Why should things be handed to you. Destiny is a grind not a handout.

Why does it need to be so easy on the first day?

If you all stopped nerfing everything, you might off been able to complete

15 light is hard content?

If you get to the boss it is 630 recommended light. I just don't care anymore.