I didn't either! But look at it this way. It wasn't mistakes made by a team of engaged, compassionate devs. These were deliberate choices made by devs who do not give a shit. It's all about maximizing profits with a minimally viable product. Buy the game, spend on Eververse, and leave. That's all they care about. They don't engage with the community, when they do its with a snarky arrogance or sarcasm and passive aggression. The game is never going to change unless the team changes. They have bad writers, Sandbox designers, fundamentally flawed progression and endgame systems, sluggish updates full of bandaid fixes, and no desire to make the experience about player fun. It will never be what we want it to be. So it's time to just walk away and not look back. We all fell in love with the initial vision of Destiny. It's never going to happen. Never.

''deleted a big wall of text'' it comes down to this. bungie is incompetent and will never be able to make something great out of this... just think about this. they had 3 years of d1, 3 years of information, 3 years of community ideas.......... AND THEIR BIGGEST SELLING POINT WAS ''CLANS''.... and on top of that, they just keep doing what they did during those 3 years of d1.... putting on a big ass strap on, and bent their customers.

We never want to leave loved ones, but there comes a point in the relationship were it's one sided and abusive. Hoping against hope only worsens the realisation when it finally hits home. We all fall into the trap of thinking it will get better, it rarely does. Then you think of all the time and money invested and dont want to accept it was a waste. The only way out of this predicament is to walk away and don't look back.

I get it, I enjoy the memory of Destiny and what I remember compared to what it is are now two different things, literally. Destiny as flawed as it was, to me felt like what it should be at AoT. Yes it wasn’t perfect but it was a hell of a lot better than what it was at launch. Then like any bad relationship something changes and you grow apart. The changes made to the fundamental aspects of Destiny into Destiny 2 are shocking. Bungie made changes to D2 for the sake of themselves and not the player, it was selfish and egotistical. We feel those changes, the magic is gone, and so is the fun, now it’s just no longer a joy to be part of this world. I can explain all my reasons why I don’t like D2 but at some point, you have to acknowledge that the horse is already dead and walk away. With that said I may not spam grief or toxicity all over the forums like others do, yet at the same time I’m not playing the game either. Next reset will be my 30 day mark away from Destiny and I still have no desire to return to it at all. I already paid for the season pass so I’ll load back in for the next DLC, and put it down when I am done three hours later for good. Nothing, [i]nothing[/i] will bring me back to this, not game but [i]developer[/i]. Bungie made this s*** show and I’m tired of smelling the crap. They have lost touch with the player base, in turn the player base has lost faith in Bungie. They do not invest in the veteran players so they have to market to new players. Yet how many times can they screw over new players before there is no one left to get screwed? It may be the digital age but word of mouth is still very powerful. Veteran players will promote a game for free and get bring in new players if they are having fun and enjoying the experience, in turn the game grows. Instead what we have is an unhappy player base with voiced concerns that some have gone unanswered since launch of D1, the vault for example. So veterans are not bringing in their friends because of this, and those friends are not bringing in their friends because of that, than the game needs to be changed. Changed in such a way that will stop the bleeding and begin the healing. Bungie needs to stop selfishly investing in themselves and instead invest in us. You don’t need a new game to thrive, you just need a good game. People will always eat at a new restaurant, yet come back if it’s good or close the doors if it is not. Players are the same they will always play the newest game just to put it down when the next new game releases, but will always come back and continue to play the good ones. If you build it, they will come. What’s messed up is that we know, [i]we know[/i], that D3 is in the works. So why should we play D2 at all when they are just going to reset our progress again for the third game, for the third time?

Ive already lost the game I loved, and that was Destiny 1. Its too late for D2, that died for me months back. Its not just about how the game turned out for me, but how they lied about the XP amongst other things and tried to cover it up. Now I just dont trust them and dont see Bungie in the same way anymore sadly.

New content will drop, people will come back. Those who don't come back will be replaced by new guardians joining the Destiny world with those expansions. As prices drop (as they always do) more folks will come looking to see what all the hoopla was all about. Destiny 2 has a solid campaign - significantly better than Destiny 1. There is actually quite a bit to do until you hit the wall. The wall is when you finish collecting gear/weapons and hit the max power level. From there on out you make your own fun (or not) until the next expansion drops. PvP needs help to make it more exciting and bring back the streamers (i.e. old weapon stratification and reduced TTK). There is too much balance making it too boring. Also we need back the old D1 maps. There are not enough maps of the quality we had in D1. Trials of the Nine is too much a "members only" club. Trials of Osiris in Destiny 1 was still accessible to "normal" players by virtue of the bounties/rewards. It is not this way any longer and currently the domain of the sweaty paid carry streamers. I am confident that things will change over time - QoL improvements and content expansions will turn D2 into a game worth playing for years.

Well I want it to die. Lul

dont be so negative ! im enjoying my conversations with people about destiny 2 ! always ends in laughter at work and smiles of management catching our conversations ! work never been so fun since destiny 2 !

Thing is, technically it shouldn’t be [b]that[/b] bad. It’s in the state it is because of the haters hive mind syndrome. People hating for the sake of hating or because others do so they must follow in order to feel a form of accomplishment or to feel like they are a part of something. It’s in our nature as humans to act more as a group rather than as individuals. In Destiny 2’s case I could ask 10 different people the same question: “why do you hate D2” and I can almost guarantee that 7 out of those 10 people will come up with the same answer, something along the lines of “cuz Destiny is dead lol” or “cuz it sucks ass”. The remaining 3 will actually have a well developed opinion stating the game’s obvious flaws and proposing solutions to said flaws. So no. The game shouldn’t be in as bad of a state. The game has huge issues, some that are, quite frankly, so obvious that it makes us question why they are there in the first place. But the mindless hating or the “Dead game lol” mindset is purely made by people that, my apologies for the lack of a better term, act like “sheeps” instead of having an opinion of their own. One of the last gaming related “hate bandwagon” of this intensity was the hate mindset towards the Call of Duty Infinite Warfare’s trailer on YouTube. One of the most disliked trailers of all time for a game that honestly, was okay for what it was; a Call of Duty game. My statement will be further reinforced by possible reactions in the form of empty insults of some people at my reply to you, OP.