It's well known that cods online player count is fabricated by either bots or just straight lies, it started when cods decline started, numbers suddenly went up by huge amounts despite it being clear the playerbase wasn't there. It was never fixed + even now old cods have over 100'000 players despite the games being 8 yrs old and it being impossible to find games. Since huge furore during BO2 every cod since no longer shows numbers due to causing bad press when they drop. Anyway, to my point. Destiny's PvP numbers have been dropping like a stone, trials report shows trials at its lowest ever number, twitch is dead, clans are dead, there's no one playing PvP and even PvE is under 850k. Then suddenly the last 2 days PvP numbers has jumped by 250k players, from 200k to 450k, for no apparent reason. So thought I'd hop on and do my call to arms. There's literally no one playing, in Europe at least. Had to wait 35 mins last night to get a game in competitive, just to unlock call to arms. Then I tried to get 5 quickplays, lobbies take forever to match, there's players spread worldwide, lobbies are laggy as hell, they appear to be heavily biased to 1 team regarding connection and latency. It's just a complete shitshow and not fun 1 bit. So the question is, where are the extra 250'000 players? It's not even like cod where the excuse was 'theyre in zombies or private lobbies'. Is it Activision, is it bungie? Are the all in Uganda + matching each other? It doesn't add up Edit: apparently the missing 250'000 never went anywhere, mayhem wasn't stat tracked, so the total was never 200k but always a steady 450k, you just couldn't see them.