It's literally gambling, receives the most attention from Bungie in updates and DLC as opposed the the content, and takes away a lot of the rewards from exploring or mastering weapons or just playing the game that Destiny 1 had.

This is a looter shooter. As much as it is defined by shooting, it is defined by the loot. We all get loot from completing activities for a reason. We can customize and optimize our characters for a reason. It is a basic part of the game at it's core. The loot is now unevenly distributed between the game itself and a microtransaction marketplace. Eververse has been made more important by the lack of meaningful rewards elsewhere in the game, and the influx of very desirable loot into eververse. The game is now funneled through eververse in all ways it is rewarding. The focus of a full priced AAA game has now become microtransactions, and there is a problem with that. The idea is that the game is forced to be about more than gameplay now. In d1 there were gameplay based reasons to want certain loot. Raid gear had special perks and strike specific loot was good. That is not the case in d2. Only weapons have maintained some sort of substantial effect on gameplay. There are basically three sets of armor for gameplay purposes, and the stats they affect, don't do much anyway. Everything after that is cosmetic. You grind for weapons and mods and you grind for what you want to look like. That's all that's left in this game. That's the state bungie has forced this game into. Eververse has become endgame because cosmetics take up so much slack in the grind now. In d1 you didn't worry about cosmetics until you were done grinding for armor and weapons with random rolls. There was a long term grind with meaningful results. Now you hit max light, get the mods and weapons you want (only once because of static rolls), and then you grind xp for eververse engrams to improve your appearance. People need a reason to keep playing, to grind, and cosmetics is what's left to fill that void. Bungie has taken advantage of that. They throttled xp gains since launch and stuffed the eververse items into large rng drop pools. They made it so you go to eververse to decode the engrams they do give you, so you can see everything that you didn't get. They lock items into seasons and create urgency to get things before you no longer have a chance. Then they create an event completely built around a large addition of eververse items that also has a time limit. There's so much put into eververse that it feels like there's less to get in the rest of the game than from microtransactions. It's a system made to influence people to pay for eververse loot. With eververse gone, people hope more focus will go back to the actual game, and bungie will start fixing what matters.

Two things: 1.) We were promised something. "A lot of loot" as Cayde stated in the advertisements. It was never specified that 40+% of the "A lot of loot" would be in the form of shaders, ships, sparrows, shells and emotes we would have to see Tess about before they were cycled out of the game every season. In reality, D2 has far less loot than D1, as D1 had random weapon rolls, so you could have dozens of different guns under the same name. Now, one gun is one gun. 2.) Bungie removed the grimoire, claimed they were putting the lore "in the game" but failed to mention that a substantial bit of that lore would be in Tess's shop. So, if you are someone that enjoys the lore aspect of this game, and say you want to know the complete story of Osiris and his relationship with the Vex, then you better get the ABC ghost shell, or the XYZ armor piece, that has lore wrapped up in it, before these items are cycled out of the game in the next season. If Bungie wants to have an MTX shop (which I think is atrocious and a slap in the face to people who bought this game Day One and the season pass) then have the decency to allow people to buy what they want instead of putting everything inside a game of chance.

The bottom line is that bungie is putting all this effort into eververse while we all spent $100 on a boring game. I personally don’t have an issue with eververse, if metrosexual people want to play dress up with their guardians, I’m not judging, but the message is clear. Fix the game, -blam!- everything else.

First thing is that, other than emotes, everything in eververse was received from doing specific thing. Playing crucible, strikes, raid or trials. There was a path to receive a specific thing you wanted. Removing this is just one in a loong list of ways this game was dumbed down from the rpg they told us they wanted into the fashion shooter we have now.(Like removing perks from armor so that the shit you buy is as good as the stuff you get. Meaning the best gear is what looks better. So you sell the “better” gear but it can’t be called pay to win) Also the fact that it is all random. If you want micro transactions at least let people pay for what they want. I hate that they gutted my game though, couldn’t care less about people spending their money on garbage.

Agreed. If eververse items were in the exotic engram loot pool people will complain about not getting a weapon or armour.

How I understand it is that it’s because the most of the added content for the holiday event was put in the eververse with no way of getting everything other than buying the dawning engrams.

Because Eververse is the forefront of what Destiny 2 is. The loot isn't just eververse. Nothing interesting is in the game, its bare, its dead, its souless, the only soul of a game I see is in the eververse. They shouldn't have added any items to Eververse in season 2 and instead used that time to fix this game. It needs to go, to promote Bungie to give us a finished product before they bring Eververse back.

The only issue I have with it is that there is way to much stuff in EV. I don't mind ev being there given i get free bright engrams as is, but id like a diffrent way to get fancy ships sparrows and ghosts. They are making that step forward with faction rally so i hope they continue that trend.

The problem with Eververse isn’t about the stuff she offers it’s about the overemphasizing of her content at the cost of actual gameplay content. Example: more than 50% of the content available in CoO is behind Eververse. See, that’s way to much of an emphasis and it makes the game look like a big greedy cash grab. I wouldn’t ind Tess at all if Bungie didn’t: Take out strike specific loot Removed crucible nodes Not introduced a proper ranking system for the competitive crucible Removed heroic strike modifiers Remove kiosks The list goes on and on. But, despite all that, they had the guts to put hundreds of items behind Eververse? That’s just plain greedy and it it exactly why we want it [b]removed[/b] and all its items put into the game through [b]actual gameplay content[/b].

[quote]So I’m a vet player having played since Beta Destiny 1. I don’t know why so many people are calling for Eververse to be removed. Personally, I don’t use micro-transactions in games at all, so I see Eververse as a loot drop when I ‘level up’. Are people angry at buying Eververse and not getting what they want? Because they buy the chance to gain drops that are worth the same as levelling up 5 times, 10 times etc. Unless there is something I am missing, Eververse is a completely optional part of the game which drops regular rewards for free or that offers nothing other than cosmetic upgrades or better sparrows. Hopefully this stays civil but I just want to know why people are calling for it to be removed.[/quote] People are angry that the best looking gear is hidden behind a glorified gambling system. Hth

There pissed off because aesthetics. Stuff that has no power or skill. It doesn’t enhance,it just looks.

It is easy to explain actually, people angry because whole game centred around eververse loot boxes: you go to strikes - you get useless tokens and same guns you already have, lost sectors - same, adventures - same, nightfall - same, crucible-same, raid - after few times is same too. But if you like some special, really cool looking items tied to lore, like Osiris ship, welcome to eververse cash shop gambling, where you can spend up to $1000 and still never get this ship. And this loot should be rare drop from mercury heroic adventures, not peoples wallets. I personally don't mind some microtransactions, as long as they're some small cherry on top, but when you buy $20 DLC where [b]ALL[/b] cool new items in cash shop - #removeeververse happens. Hope its clear now

You’re correct. What the l problem actually is relates to content in other areas of the game. The bandwagon just seems fixated on the Space Barbie cosmetics store. What the game needs is an injection of game play relevant items added to the loot table. It needs a revamp of all loot systems and the mod system needs an overhaul w/ PvP/PvE based perks added. What it doesn’t need is time wasted on a event that some people enjoy. What Eververse needs is a billboard for the numpties explaining to them that they’re buying RNG boxes and there’ll be no crying after willingly spending their money on that vanity crap. Then she needs to sell a few items for silver to make the ❄️ that can’t wait that can be on a 2week/monthly rotation.

3 armor sets, although cosmetic. Where locked behind a loot box, 1 set that couldn’t be acquired more then 3 times a week, for a total of 9, 9 chances to earn an equipment set for 1 guardian, lucky if you got it for both. Cosmetics shouldn’t matter, but in a game like destiny, a game with a character designed to psychologically inserted by you the player. Cosmetics are everything, it’s a FPS RPG where each guardian and their “light” save the galaxy time and time again. We are the sole savior of this universe, bungie wants to tell us this, but they won’t let us experience it, when we all look like The ass slave of calus.

A destiny vet with no raid clears and 2300 grimoire? Yeah of course you are

Ever compare the looks to any piece of armor/ship/shader/emote that can be acquired through normal gameplay to what Eververse has to offer during Seasonal events and/or what she rotates per DLC. They created Books in D1 to counteract this type of crap. Don't fix what's not broken.