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Edited by chickengoujohn93: 10/21/2016 12:17:18 AM
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The best Raid weapons of all time!

With the release of Hard Mode Wrath of the Machine, all weapons are now available to use.Two years and four Raids later we have gotten our fair share of some beastly weapons! Of all the Raid weapons in the game, I think it is fair to say that the weapons mentioned below are the best weapons of their class regardless of relevancy. Raid Exotic: Vex Mythoclast (VoG) Scout Rifle: Vision of Confluence (VoG) Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM) Handcannon: Fatebringer (VoG) Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE) Sniper: Black Hammer (CE) Fusion Rifle: Praetorian Foil (VoG) Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG) Rocket Launcher: Hunger of Crota (CE) Machine Gun: Quillum's Terminus (KF) Sidearm: N/A (only one) Sword: N/A (none) Relic: Ascendant Sword (CE) Do you agree? Comment below! [b]EDIT:[/b] Out of all weapons mentioned above, the Shotgun was the toughest choice, as Quantiplasm is just a fantastic Shotgun and fun to use! Scouts were also a tough choice as both Fang and Chaos Dogma are also top tier Scouts. Vision seemed so much more useful with Full Auto when you wanted to be lazy, combined well with Zen Moment, had the some great sights and covered 2/4 forever present elemental shields at the time (Wizards and Centurions). The rest were pretty much clear cut winners in my opinion! [b]EDIT 2:[/b] Is Genesis Chain really that good? I thought it was just the Small Arms modifier blinding my judgement as it has been active in Heroics every week since the Raid launched. I haven't tried it in PvP on the basis of High Impact ARs being the worst weapon archetypes in the game currently. In all my Raid runs with groups from LFG I have rarely seen other's use it... Better try it again may have missed something. After Abyss Defiant, Anguish is trash and Epilogue was never really great in PvE like most HRoF AR's. As for Corrective Measure, I was never fond of low impact Machine Guns and assumed the community was not either as you rarely see anyone use them, may it be Patrol, Strikes, Nightfall, Raids or PvP. Quillum's seemed a more logical choice as it was basically the only MG used in PvP in Year Two. Cocoon negated MG's awful reload speeds in PvE allowing to continue DPS rather than lose DPS through reloading by switching/stowing. Still not saying Corrective Measure was bad though, I did use it quite often.
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  • I'll agree with all but 2 the auto rifle should be Genesis and the machine gun should be corrective measure (pre MG nerf 100 round drum)

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  • Quantiplasm wasn't NEARLY as good as OG found verdict was. No contest needed

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  • No love for corrective measure?!

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  • Abyss defiant was a terrible auto rifle

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  • Oversoul Edict needs a mention.

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  • [quote]Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM)[/quote] So many people who had Praedyth's Time Piece would disagree. It was a great gun in both PVE (after HoW when PR's were buffed) AND PVP [quote]Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG)[/quote] In PVP, Found Verdict was better; In PVE, Sword Breaker was an absolute beast. [quote]Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE)[/quote] I would make the case for Aetheon's Epilogue here because high RoF AR's were all the rage through TTK and the AE was a sleeper gun that was sneaky good. Abyss Defiant just wouldn't compete with its slower RoF, Focused fire doesn't help in PVE or PVP, and they nerfed its ability to consistently stun hive wizards.

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    • Pre ammo nerf quilliums, otherwise corrective

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    • I don't understand how so many people are sleeping on Corrective Measure. Best HMG I've ever owned in its prime, no questions. I'm guessing people still don't understand how broken Surplus was. Maybe the best kept secret of y1 (on snipers especially).

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    • Without Fang of ir this list is invalid 😉

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    • I agree with most of this list but a few changes: Fusion Rifle: [armory]ETHER NOVA~[/armory] - Statwise it's better than [armory]Praetorian Foil[/armory] Raid Exotic: [armory]Touch of Malice[/armory] - Before the BoL nerf...I say this because it was the most useful Raid Exotic

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      • Edited by Land: 10/20/2016 3:47:45 PM
        Genesis chain is better than abyss def. for the best auto. All others i agree. Fatebringer does edge voc and fang but not by much. Pulse? Its kind of a toss up pvp wise i would say timepiece pve wise toss up between medulla and smite with firefly roll.

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      • Honestly, all the shotguns have been good except the KF one, however I still agree that Verdict was the best one. Full auto and final round made it a PvE beast.

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      • Not surprised to not see KF weapons.

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        • I like the new Raid hand cannon, rocket launcher, and machine gun. I'm close on the scout. I LOVE the VoC, but the Dogma hits like a Mack truck. It's close, but VoC holds a special place in my heart. I actually like ALL of the new Raid weapons. Maybe not more than some other, but at least I like them all. Unlike KF.

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          • [quote]With the release of Hard Mode Wrath of the Machine, all weapons are now available to use.Two years and four Raids later we have gotten our fair share of some beastly weapons! Of all the Raid weapons in the game, I think it is fair to say that the weapons mentioned below are the best weapons of their class regardless of relevancy. Relic: Ascendant Sword (CE) Raid Exotic: Vex Mythoclast (VoG) Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE) Scout Rifle: Vision of Confluence (VoG) Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM) Handcannon: Fatebringer (VoG) Sniper: Black Hammer (CE) Fusion Rifle: Praetorian Foil (VoG) Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG) Rocket Launcher: Hunger of Crota (CE) Machine Gun: Quillum's Terminus (KF) Sidearm: N/A (only one) Sword: N/A (none) Do you agree? Comment below! EDIT: Out of all weapons mentioned above, the Shotgun was the toughest choice, as Quantiplasm is just a fantastic Shotgun and fun to use! The rest were pretty much clear cut winners in my opinion![/quote] Agreed 100%

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          • What about the gang from CE that was a dope scout rifle

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          • Yes, I agree with you. I did like Fang of Ir Yut(CE-scout) when ARC burn was up or in the original POE.

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          • IMO auto should be genesis chain and pulse should be praedyths timepiece

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          • Edited by Ray: 10/20/2016 3:24:39 PM
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            AR: Abyss Defiant HC: Fatebringer Scout: Vision PR: Timepiece Shotty: Found Verdict FR: P.Foil Sniper: Black Hammer Sidearm: obviously the only one MG: Terminus RPG: HoC Sword: N/A Exotic: Vex

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          • VoG relic is WAY better than the sword.

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          • Why is everyone saying Genesis Chain is the best raid auto? Both Abyss Defiant and Atheon's Epilogue have better perks and feel smoother. The only benefit of Genesis Chain is Firefly, which isn't great on it (and light level, but that's given).

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            • Aetheon's Epilogue for primary with void elemental damage!

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              • Original white nail Black Hammer. It was so good that they have to change its perk and made into an exotic.

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              • Edited by GrandStyles: 10/20/2016 3:53:34 PM
                Change VoC to Fang of Ir Yut and it's perfect. Edit - so easy to bait the VoC defense force 😂

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                • Also the shield was the best relic, not the sword imo

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                • Good list! Only change I would make is Genesis Chain over Abyss Defiant. This Genesis Chain feels like an exotic, i love it!

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