Shoulder charge use up the melee charge.

I run a gunslinger with low armor, last night I got shoulder charged and lived, the Titan and I just stared at each other in shock, then I proceeded to bury my knife in his skull, it was amazing

I'm going to make a montage of players killing me doing SC to show how easy it is to kill someone doing it. It really not that hard to tell if someone Is going to hit you

Nice you know how to press the RB button, free kill!

The ram laughs at shoulder charge

Gonna take a guess at it right now. [spoiler][b]Strikers[/b] As promised, we kept an eye on Titans after the previous patch. Strikers, while not out performing other classes, are still creating frustrating encounters. Most of these encounters are from the ability Shoulder Charge, so we're taking some steps to make it less frustrating to deal with if you're not running a Shotgun. This will allow for more counterplay opportunities before a Titan lodges his knee into your face. [b]Mobility[/b] Titans have always had an advantage in the mobility department, while being able to simultaneously have a high armor stat through a technique called Titan Skating. While we're not going to remove this technique completely, we are going to reduce its effectiveness in helping you close the gap. if you've used Warlocks often, you know of Glide and its Focused Burst ability. We're bringing Increased Control more in-line with its mobility advantages. Catapault should be your go-to movement ability for closing the gap. These changes will be universal across all Titan Subclasses. ○ Increased Control now incurs a -1 Agility penalty ○ Increased Control airborne speed reduced [b]Shoulder Charge[/b] Shoulder Charge is the bane of many player's experiences. While it's not necessarily overpowered, it's causing mass frustration to those not using close-quarters weapons. These changes should help those who prefer to use long-range weapons have a fighting chance when a Titan is flying in on them. ○ Shoulder Charge now incurs a -1 Agility penalty ○ Shoulder Charge's effective duration reduced ○ Shoulder Charge now requires more time to charge back up after usage, but now charges back up quicker if you don't use it ○ Shoulder Charge's tracking range reduced to 4m on ground, 5m in the air Then something about Lightning Grenades because Bungie has to overnerf always.[/spoiler]

As someone who deleted my titan after maybe an hour or two of playing, i have always hated shoulder charge. So annoying to run around a corner and BAM. Flying knee KO. But now that I have leveled up my Titan and tried to use it in the crucible - it really isn't all that great. Spent an entire match just trying to run people down with my shoulder charge and I didn't actually get to very many of them before i got shot down with a fusion rifle or shotgun. It might seem OP because everyone uses titans, so you see it happen often, but it's really not that special when you're trying to use it. However, throwing knife should not have been nerfed. Was a great counter to a flying titan.

Shoulder charge definitely doesn't need to be nerf. It does what it suppose to. I mean if you think they are OP now should've been there when just the whiff of the air left by the charge killed you most of the time and not the actual shoulder (or knee). The shoulder charge is rather more direct now. I've been killed numerous time mid charge. It's find where it is. (I main hunter.)

We are not the problem, you are

I only play hunter, and from my point of view, i think Titans move too fast for how often they can SC. The OP said that everything counters it, which just isn't true. Yes, any tactic can potentially stop a SC in its tracks, and yes, the radar does make it harder for people to use the SC. However, I find it hard to believe that there is nothing wrong with the SC because it's easily spammed and incredibly mobile. A one shot kill shouldn't be so fast and common.

thorn was not the problem, you were. blink+Shotty was not the problem, you were. just don't get shot by thorn. just don't let someone blink close to you. dumb logic.