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Edited by Mtashed:
12/30/2015 10:22:56 PM
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Revives Need to be Nerfed - Discussion with Datto
I recognize dealing with revives is essential to success in trials. However, with fast revive gear, it can be oppressively strong to spam revives during a match.
Revive mechanics currently rewards sloppy play. Shields are strong, immunity frames are silly, and getting revived should be a risky last ditch effort.
Dying early should be punished...Instead, teams are forced to get up close with shotguns to stop a revive, or use sniper ammo after it has already happened.
Essentially, primaries are useless during revives, and causes a situation where you either stop the revive before it happens, or have to wait until it is over with before you can react to it.
This lack of counter play needs to be fixed IMO...but I'd love to hear what you think
Ps: Datto hasn't whined or even called for the nerf. I think they are the issue and believe they aren't being done properly. Don't be calling him out when he is more on your side than I am.
Edit: Shocked at how many people aren't even watching the video and trying to discuss this. It is as if nobody is even listening to the arguments and understanding why... I'm not asking to nerf them into the ground, just stop rewarding people for dying.
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5 RepliesI'm tired of these streamers always thinking their God and that all their opinions are above everyone else. If you got a following that's cool, I'm not knocking you down. But don't think you're above everyone else because you play 60 hours a week. Datto, OP, and many others play the game and when something doesn't go their way it has to be fixed. I never heard of anyone complain about the revives in ToO before I read this post. The nerf train getting out of hand. What's next? We gonna nerf bounties because they give us reputation? Give me a break
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2 RepliesI think, regarding the revive shields, that the overshield on the revived player should be stronger so they cannot be res sniped by a single sniper and that the player doing the revive should not get an overshield at all.
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Youtuber's need to be nerfed
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7 RepliesSays he is not posting here anymore as if his posting here makes an impact on our lives.
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2 Replies[quote]toxic and immature[/quote] You're just now noticing this? I call it Salt Lake City for a reason
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3 RepliesWho's Datto? Is he some kind of international celebrity?
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7 RepliesWho the feck is Datto, and why should i care about his/her opinion? hence not watching a vid. if he/she is just another Destiny player, and not a Bungie employee who actually has some real knowledge of the game, and can physically change things for the better, then Datto has no bearing or point.
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Edited by Fungiaticus: 12/30/2015 7:46:22 PMHorrible argument for a nerf. Each time someone dies in trials the revive timer is longer leaving his team less powerful without a teammate. Stop thinking you somehow know better and call for a nerf. Bungie never does nerfs correctly. Just play the game and enjoy it!
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crybaby
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Comes to Destiny forums and expects to have an educated discussion. Good one Mtashed, one of the funniest things youve come up with.
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Datto got rid of the Gally -blam!- this guy
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700+ wins in trials. Never once had a problem with revive Shields. Stopped watching instantly
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2 RepliesDying is not beneficial in any way in trials the way revives are now. So literally any changes i will disagree with so I will not watch the video. Even the points you made are not good points for changing revives.
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I wasn't aware a 15 second time out was a reward.
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3 RepliesJUMPING SHOULD BE NERFED - DISCUSSION WITH RANDOM PERSON ON INTERNET
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5 RepliesEasily abused instant kills aren't the problem, revives are! LMFAO
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10 RepliesYour video is stupidly biased. You seem to forget when the other team gets a revive that you just had a 3v2 advantage and didn't capitalize on it. You don't mention that every class has at least one method of area denial to prevent or delay a revive. You don't mention that multiple deaths increases the time between revives. You don't mention that you can gain map positioning or grab special ammo while they are down. You don't mention that while they are down there abilities are not charging. You also ignore that their teammates have to put themselves at risk to get the revive that you are watching 99% of the time.
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Just because datto -blam!-ing sucks at the game doesn't mean others do
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2 RepliesWahh wahh wahh. Nerf this nerf that. So tired of all the crybaby whiners screaming for nerfs.
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You make a valid point Mike however the fact of the matter is Bungie doesn't want this game to be competitive. With ALL the variables the crucible is impossible to balance. The game will never be played MLG and that's fine. PvP with friends is meant to just be casual and have some fun. There are far too many topics for change that can be debated but are simply not a priority at Bungie. It's sadly a waste of breath to discuss imbalances.
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1 ReplyThe fairest way to fix this is just make to where ONLY my team can "revive". It's just unfair that both teams can revive, and have to deal with the same issues.
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Time to revive could be made slightly longer, and maybe make it so a headshot off revive isn't a kill
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Take away the revive shield and everyone will farm those orbs for easy double kills then you'd have a bigger problem. If you want to do anything about it, keep the shield but as soon as the shielded player takes an offensive action like shoot or throw a nade the shield drops automatically. Good ol' Resistance pvp worked like that and it was perfect.
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10 RepliesShooting an opponent attempting to revive a teammate should cancel his or her revive attempt. This will force proper engagements or repositioning instead of people just standing and eating bullets till they get an overshield and a friend back for doing so. It would also reduce the need for a high impact Sniper for revive snipes.
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4 Replies[quote] I'm not asking to nerf them into the ground[/quote] [quote]To be fair, datto didn't even say it should have a massive nerf. I did. I think revives should be nerfed into the ground[/quote] Which one is it?
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3 Replies[quote]im never posting here again because I'm a whiny nerf baby,and nobody agrees with my sunnyD fueled tangent[/quote]
