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11/22/2015 11:31:00 PM
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Sunbreakers... Are we OP? A Titans thoughts?
Right I'm gonna let off some steam here.. But before I start I'm say a few things. YES, I'm a Titan. YES, I am a Sunbreaker (I don't intend to change anytime soon) in my person opinion do I think it's an OP subclass...? NO!!!
I'm tired of people saying we are.? Because sooner or later we're going to get nerfed because people can't handle Titans actually having a good super that grants them the ability to be what they are supposed to be, the tanks of destiny. I hear it on YouTube and the forums, it's driving me crazy, we're not that OP I've been killed in my super plenty of times.
But before I get moaned at by all you warlocks and hunters I'm gonna say a few things. Us Titans have had to deal with your shit since day one. Let's be honest before year 2 we had basically terrible supers, we couldn't move anywhere with them and netted maybe four kills with FOH if we were extremely lucky and don't get me started on defender for PVP. Hunters were the King of PVP for a long time, now you guys are all mad because now is Titans are challenging your top spot? And you warlocks, you can come back from the dead and have a melee with a range the size of shaquille o'neal.
Yes we have cauterize which returns our health when we get a kill with fire? So what? Bladedancer? Hungering blade sound familiar?
Yes we have more armour in a super? What the -blam!- do you expect from a class literally named "Titan"
I respect that people think it's OP, and I will admit sometimes it is, but it's that word "sometimes" it's like all supers inconsistent, one day it's amazing the next it's not. Trust me as a Titan I know, it's just I know the community, people only remember us when they see the how good the subclass can be. They don't see what we see as Titan, you don't see the wasted supers, the instant shut downs because they aren't what you remember, you remember us when we kill you and it sucks because that's why people complain.
Look, bottom line is I love destiny, I'm a day one player. I don't mean to offend anyone by writing this post I'm sorry if I have, hell this is my first time writing on the forums that'd be a bad way to start hah. I've played all classes it's just the Titan is mine, it's how I play. I'm just a player who doesn't want to see his subclass get nerfed because it's getting hate from all the people that don't play Titan (which lets be honest is most of the community) I'm just tired in general with every nerf, its just silly sometimes it really is. I love my super I really do... I just don't want to see it go the way of shotguns because people hate on it so much.
But look, if you've made it this far I'd love to know what you thinks on the topic? Feel free to leave a comment with your opinion, I'd like to hear what others think on this. Thank you for reading.
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1 ReplyI can give you three reasons why the super is OP (I'm not considering neutral game as that is heavily based on the player themself): 1. Forgemaster; and you're even using it. 2. Flameseeker; wait, you're using this one, too? 3. Cauterize; again, another perk you're using. These three perks break the super. Nobody is gonna use the shoulder charge HoS perk when you can chuck hammers across the map. Nobody is gonna use sunspots when you can have a roaming lengthened super instead with extra blast radius. Nobody is gonna use Simmering Flame because it's a waste not to spam HoS. Immolation Fists give you Explosive Pyre so you don't even need to worry about that. And nobody cares about the extra agility perk when you can have hammers that curve in mid-air to take out enemies. The only real "weakness" is the hammer travel time (I consider the arc a strength as you can use it to your advantage), but even that doesn't matter as most maps have extensive CQC. Cauterize works with all Sunbreaker abilities. Voidwalkers have something similar with the Embrace the Void perk which puts energy drain on the Nova Bomb and grenades on top of the melee (you also have to activate Life Steal as the melee ability). But this means skipping over Bloom and Vortex Mastery in that same tree. Those are incredibly useful perks unlike everything besides Cauterize in its respective tree. As for the Bladedancer? Hungering Blade only works for the super and melee. Got a grenade kill? Too damn bad for that health regen. Sunbreakers are the only sublass to have a perk that adds health regen to [i]all[/i] ability kills without sacrificing another good perk.
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56 RepliesEdited by Goomy: 11/27/2015 2:27:21 AM[quote]Right I'm gonna let off some steam here.. But before I start I'm say a few things. YES, I'm a Titan. YES, I am a Sunbreaker (I don't intend to change anytime soon) in my person opinion do I think it's an OP subclass...? NO!!! I'm tired of people saying we are.? Because sooner or later we're going to get nerfed because people can't handle Titans actually having a good super that grants them the ability to be what they are supposed to be, the tanks of destiny.[/quote] No. You are not the Tanks of Destiny. This is not an excuse. You are the fastest class in the game, have the most armor, and the most damage output. You can even have regeneration on kill, and it is NOT hard to get 2-3 kills with a hammer. Pretty sure the 'tank' class is supposed to be slow with low damage output. [quote]I hear it on YouTube and the forums, it's driving me crazy, we're not that OP I've been killed in my super plenty of times.[/quote] I dont understand how. Besides a nova bomb foh or celestial nighthawk golden gun you have the ability to survive near anything. [quote]But before I get moaned at by all you warlocks and hunters I'm gonna say a few things. Us Titans have had to deal with your shit since day one.[/quote] ARGUMENT DONE If you think even for a second that you deserve god mode just because you think you had bad subclasses last year, then you are incorrect. You dont deserve anything. Defender is good Striker is good [quote]Let's be honest before year 2 we had basically terrible supers, we couldn't move anywhere with them and netted maybe four kills with FOH if we were extremely lucky and don't get me started on defender for PVP. Hunters were the King of PVP for a long time, now you guys are all mad because now is Titans are challenging your top spot? And you warlocks, you can come back from the dead and have a melee with a range the size of shaquille o'neal. Yes we have cauterize which returns our health when we get a kill with fire? So what? Bladedancer? Hungering blade sound familiar? [/quote] Hunters have to be in melee range. You can be miles away, and with your aoe you can easily get kills from short-medium range. Hunters need to be in Short range. You sure you've played the other classes? [quote]Yes we have more armour in a super? What the -blam!- do you expect from a class literally named "Titan" [/quote] Then Hunters should be the quickest, right? Oh wait no That's Titans You have the best pvp super in the game, and contrary to popular belief, a damn good neutral game as well. You are Broken. You need tweeking. EDIT 1: I honestly didnt think this would get as big as it did My most famous post hype?
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Literally all Titans need is less damage resistance.
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The more you deny that Titans are unbalanced, the more foolish you look.
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I think the problem is they gain a stupid amount of damage resistance when sol is active, I think of you misuse supers with long duration time, you should be punished for it.
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But in year 1 hunters were good at pvp because titans and warlocks were better at pve. Why do people seem to forget this? :/
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I think it's pretty cool that you titans finally have a cool super that you can use effectively but all the good supers got nerfed over time due to all the complaining. It's going to happen sooner or later to the titans.
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Yup we are make us die in one snipe headshot and a small delay on health regen
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I main A TITAN and yes they are , either less Armor , no regen or last way less on PVP yes they are , very OP
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I just started my titan and took SUNBREAKER to crucible.... Maybe a little too OP
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Long wall of text basically Making no real points. A class is much more than its super. The sunbreaker super is too strong. The class is fine. The super needs tweaking. No Titans didn't suck throughout the first year of destiny. Once again the class is much more than its super alone. Many people were very successful with Titans in PvP.
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Is it op if you... Run from it: no Challenge it: yes Stop challenging it...
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I agree and support this message brought to u by Titan master race
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Yes. Way too easy to use, my kills per super with HoS has to out do every other subclass across all other characters. I've never cried nerf, ever before in Destiny. Thorn didn't bother me, TLW didn't bother me, I didn't use final round supers, but they didn't bother me. Sunbreaker is definitely OP, and anyone who cares to take the time to do a little research on Destiny tracker will see it's not opinion, more fact. Kills per super with HoS is more than double the super in second place (GG).
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Just let me say when I play on my Titan I do so much better than on any other character. Titans are in a very good spot in crucible right now. I wouldn't change much. Only thing that I might change is the regen perk and make it so it restores a potion of health. Not completely regen that's probably it though.
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You just admitted that sometimes it's OP.
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I've played all three, but I main a titan. The sunbreaker definitely needs reworked. Maybe 5% armor reduction and cauterize only restores a portion of your health. And make the class more about well placed hammers rather than hammer spam.
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Sun reader here and yea we are op lmao Any sun breaker with flame seeker and explosive pyre Yep we need a nerf lol I can't help but laugh when one hammer chains to 5 people and kills them all I'm anti nerf but we need a tweak
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2 RepliesAll they need to do is get rid of both cauterize and hungering blade. No supers need to be able to heal.
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They aren't that op... Kinda hard to get kills with them cause everyone just runs
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Edited by Silva: 11/27/2015 3:36:18 AMI main a warlock, even though my kd is low, cause I know someone is gonna mention it. I don't think sunbreakers are op. I've shut down a few so I think they are balanced
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The answer lies within the statistics.
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1 Reply[quote]Yes we have cauterize which returns our health when we get a kill with fire? So what? Bladedancer? Hungering blade sound familiar?[/quote] That could be the worst argument for saying Cauterize isnt OP, you're comparing a super that requires you to get up close within shotgun/melee range to a super which you can throw hammers at long distance. [quote]Yes we have more armour in a super? What the -blam!- do you expect from a class literally named "Titan" [/quote] Another really poor point, the game SHOULD be balanced.. the classes SHOULD be balanced, just because a class is called titan doesnt mean it should have way more armour then another class.. hell titans are also the fastest class as well so according to your logic they should get a massive agility nerf. Everyone said Hunters Golden Gun was OP and sure its annoying as -blam!- to be killed by it from long range but they reduced the amount of time you have it now and with the 4 shot helmet coming back you hardly have time to use 4 shots so its kind of pointless. Titans on the other hand have all day to use there supers.. i was killed on Pantheon by a TiTan when i was in the middle of the map.. i re spawned and tried to run out of spawn and he had ran all the way up and through our spawn killing me again.. you can basically run across the map if you dont spam hammers which needs fixing just as they fixed it with golden gun. Cauterize need a cool down time, if someone else doesnt have a super HoS titans are near impossible to kill as they regen health way to easy, i could only imagine the uproar on the forums if Hunter got this ability on there golden gun class. They like all other mobile supers should be able to be 1 hit by a high impact sniper to the head along with 1 hit golden gun, Hammers 1 hit blade dancers, golden gun and that shitty arc warlock class which are all mobile supers yet Hammers can be 1 hit by any of them (unless the titan has no idea how to tank a golden gun)
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OP as -blam!-, dont even try to justify it. Dont worry, you are getting nerfed soon enough lol. Ps: i have a 314 titan.
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OP, I may not share the same view as you but I respect you not acknowledging yourself for breaking 1k comments Kudos
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1 ReplyI'm mainly a Hunter with Nightstalkeer (Or my Arc Blade is in my hand) but from playing on my Titan I know and have the right to say Sunbreakers are too OP. I'm not gonna lie but Noghtstalkers could do with a nerf aswell at least to remove the homing shots (Cancelling supers is Good enough) If I'm right in saying, Sunbreakers are getting Nerfed anyway thankfully.
