First off, let me be clear; I loved Titans in year 1, and I still love them now, but this post is directed toward people who try to say that the Hammer of Justice should not be nerfed due to Titans' weak year 1 PvP game.
Just because your supers last year might not have been the best, doesn't mean that this monstrosity of unbalanceness shouldn't be nerfed. Seriously, I'm all for Titans having great supers, and I want all the classes to be viable in both PvP and PvE, but that doesn't mean we can let one super completely rule PvP like Bladedancers did early last year. The supers, in their current state, are unbalanced, and that is a problem regardless of who has the short end or long end of the stick. Thank you for reading.
Oh, and if anyone points out to me that Hunter supers were OP year 1: Yeah, I know, it sucked, and I wanted them to be nerfed when they were OP just as much as I want Sunbreaker to be nerfed now.
Edit: Here's a little clip from a mayhem clash game I played yesterday. This kind of stuff is why Sunbreaker rules the Crucible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncq42nWlQeA
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1) sunbreakers last ridiculously long 2) they one shot all other supers
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lets be honest right now when you see a sunbreaker you just run no time to think all other supers can get one shot(exception to fist of havoc) by a regular high impact sniper cmon guys.
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40 RepliesEdited by UnderTempo: 10/31/2015 7:22:13 PMSunbreakers have so many pros and basically no cons compared to other classes [u]Gunslinger[/u] Pros: can one shot [i]mostly[/i] everything with a powerful ranged attack Cons: gets no bonus armor [u]Bladedancer[/u] Pros: has a fast one shot melee attack and health regeneration after each kill Cons: they need to get close to kill you so there are plenty of chances to kill them [u]Nightstalker[/u] Pros: can one shot enemies and take them out of their supers Cons: only has one shot (until they fix quiver) and tethering is sometimes slow [u]Nova Bomb[/u] Pros: powerful aoe attack with ranged potential Cons: kind of slow and only has one use [u]Sunslinger[/u] Pros: can come back from the dead with a lot of armor Cons: doesn't have much killing potential because it only gets extra grenades [u]Stormcaller[/u] Pros: lasts very long and has some range, great for crowds (definitely the second best super in my opinion) Cons: no health regeneration, slow movement unless you're using ionic blink [u]Striker[/u] Pros: powerful aoe attack that is quite fast Cons: doesn't have any range and only has one use [u]Defender[/u] Pros: can be used to give teammates extra damage or armor, great for capturing zones or areas Cons: doesn't directly get kills and can easily get wrecked by other supers And finally... [i][u]Sunbreaker[/u][/i] Pros: fast, mobile super with most armor in the game, up to 7 ranged one shots (that's more than twice that a gunslinger gets in case you're not good at math), also has health regeneration after each ability kill Cons: help me out on these, I'm stumped. Can get one shot by nova bomb, black spindle, or first of havoc I guess? Hammers take away super time? Idk Edit: what are some sunbreaker counters? When I said "help me out", I meant help me think of some counters
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Go Destiny!
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Never use mayhem as an example of balance
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Less QQ, more pew pew.
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I was playing clash yesterday and I jumped up onto this thing where I thought there was one guy. Turned out to be 4 if them. I activated HoS and wouldn't you know killed them all without dying. There weren't even close together. That shouldn't be a thing that can happen.
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4 RepliesPlus, remember what happened to BD when all of you guys cried nerfed? Oh yeah, right. Nerfed to oblivion.
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8 RepliesEdited by A Plate of Eggs: 10/31/2015 4:08:32 PMFunny to me that during year one us titans were getting shit on everyday in crucible and we hardly complained. Now after TTK when the titans are doing the shitting on, the hunters and warlocks cry like babies... Shows what type of players use hunters and locks... Crybabies and kiddies.
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1 ReplyMan, don't waste your time. Pvp is a joke. I actually heard a podcast where a pvp designer from Bungie said it's great to have seasons where a certain gun type outclasses others, example "year 1 op hand cannon", and "year 2 op pulse rifles". Worse thing about this is that the podcast host actually agreed with these sentiments. Bungie doesn't know who to listen to. You have a community that makes Money from streaming destiny, they take anything Bungie makes as gold, and influence their viewers as well. There shouldn't be op classes, or op guns, or grimore cards, or farming for flakes. But all the community can say is "adapt" or "get good". Dude adapt your mindset, this pvp is not meant for competitive players that want to test their skills. I mean you can't even make a private match. Just turn off your brain and shoot things.
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4 RepliesFirst of all.....that was only 3 kills -_- Second of all.....Stormcaller can get 3 kills Thirdly.....Bladedancer can get 3 kills Fourthly.....Radiance can get 3 kills Fifthly......Fist of havoc can get 3 kills Still seems overpowered?
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2 RepliesPvp is a joke on here anyways but Since day one all I hear is complaining about supers to guns. Ya you got killed by a arc blade boohoo you want a fist of havoc with your tears? No let me hammer your gamer souls into the ground or light you up with my storm caller. STOP COMPLAINING ITS A GAME AT THE END OF THE DAY WHO CARES YOULL GO AND KILL 3 people with your super in like 4 minutes. nerf this nerf that, nerf your brain cause you can't handle life.
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1 ReplyMaybe show me a 1000 of these from the same guy always owning every match and you might get my attention. Otherwise STFU
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19 RepliesHunter supers are still op and need to be nerfed. So are Warlocks. Titan supers suck and all of them need to be buffed. See? There's an opinion to counter yours. Now everything is evened out. I guess everything is okay after all, right?
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5 RepliesHow can you say sunbreaker is OP and justify it with a clip where you get over 3 kills once? Supers like golden gun or a well placed bubble can easily get 3+ kills each time.
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3 RepliesIt was perfect. Never should have been nerfed. It was perfect for pissing off hunters who thought they were OP. Lol hahaha
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Here's a game clip of someone going off with HoS: Here's a game clip of me not -blam!-ing caring: You idiots that post these YouTube videos like they are proving anything is appalling to me plenty of times since TTK released where I haven't been WALKED ON as soon as I pop hammers and I've seen it plenty of times as well Not to mention it is what it is but I've popped my super 100 times after being damaged idk thinking it would do me some good just to be wiped out before I throw a hammer because I already ate a burst from a pulse rifle I just can't believe that no one is calling for a Petra venj buff because that bitch has made me do 5 weeks of bounties just to obtain a gun I'll never use
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5 RepliesI am a Hunter and I have no problem with titans. So they take an extra trigger pull. People just need to learn how to counter them. I feel I get killed by all supers the same. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Okay yeah, yesterday i got many kills in trials with my sunbreaker, but i died many times through snipers as well. If everyone in your fireteam shoot on a sunbreaker it is easy to take him out
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4 RepliesFist of Panic. Dumbreakers. Bubble boys. Pretty much a useless class unless you run bubbles.
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13 RepliesWhile I believe a change (not a nerf) should be instated, I'd like to raise the point that the other classes had their fun in year one stomping us titans in the ground with ranged supers all year long. So I'm going to return the favor two-fold so they may know the feeling of having to run just because they heard a super become active across the map.
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I'm not saying it shouldn't be nerf cause of year 1 supers. Reminds me of hunters anyways back to the point. They are easy to snipe.
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I get killed by a lot more storm callers than sunbreakers
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1 ReplyEdited by nufwafrie: 10/31/2015 1:11:10 PMOnly way to fix it is by either removing the cauterize perk completely by reducing the armor to 50%
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Mayhem is hardly representative of anything.